Tom Tancredo No Longer Supports Rand

[fr33]

Enough speeches like that could win a general election.

Where do we find Jim Crow today?

Smoking bans in restaurants and bars.

 

[anaconda]

Smoking bans in restaurants and bars.

Jim Crow is racist by definition. Therefore I don't believe smoking bans would qualify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

 

[anaconda]

Enough speeches like that could win a general election.

This is the wildcard that the media isn't really talking about that much. Rand is an amazingly effective and communicative speaker. One of the best in generations. He will inspire legions.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Let's assume for the sake of argument that this were true. An increase in the size of the welfare state would be unimaginably better than the present state of Apartheid/Jim Crow that exists today. Surely you agree, yes?

I'm as "Anti-Empire" as anyone, but how is the US Government "Apartheid?"

Murderous? I'll buy that. Evil? Sure. But apartheid?

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

is.. is he using teleprompters?

 

[anaconda]

Paul Broun & Laura Ingraham discuss immigration and both mention Rand.

http://www.lauraingraham.com/pg/jsp...tZWRpYS9mbGFzaHdlbGNvbWUuanNwP3BpZD0xNDQyMQ==

 

[anaconda]

is.. is he using teleprompters?

 

[supermario21]

I think Broun's situation is worse. He basically wants to let the problem continue because he doesn't want to deport anyone.

 

[anaconda]

I think Broun's situation is worse. He basically wants to let the problem continue because he doesn't want to deport anyone.

I didn't fully understand Broun's policy ideas. I think he doesn't want to deport anyone (unless they're "caught") because it's too expensive. But I assume he does not want to give out work visas.

 

[spladle]

Oh for petes sake, are you trolling me because you're bored?

"I'm not for _____ in any circumstances" is virtually always going to be a stupid thing to say, regardless of what you fill in the blank with. Now, you're welcome to write dumb stuff all you like, but don't cry "troll" when someone calls you on it.

 

[spladle]

Where do we find Jim Crow today?

The United States government forcibly prevents persons born in other countries from making mutually beneficial exchanges with persons born in the United States. Banning voluntary exchange was the hallmark of Jim Crow and it continues to this day by another name - immigration restrictions.

 

[fr33]

Jim Crow is racist by definition. Therefore I don't believe smoking bans would qualify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

Smoking bans aren't racist but are discriminatory and are forced upon businesses against their will. There is a comparison to be made.

 

[anaconda]

The United States government forcibly prevents persons born in other countries from making mutually beneficial exchanges with persons born in the United States. Banning voluntary exchange was the hallmark of Jim Crow and it continues to this day by another name - immigration restrictions.

I don't believe this qualifies as racist and cannot, therefore, qualify as Jim Crow. The U.S. forcibly discriminates based upon nationality with respect to immigration, not race.

 

[anaconda]

Smoking bans aren't racist but are discriminatory

So smoking bans cannot be correctly characterized as "Jim Crow" since there is no racial component to the discrimination, and since "Jim Crow" is a specific type of discrimination meeting additional specialized criteria. It would be analogous to calling a vegetarian a vegan.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Jim Crow? Lol. The only thing going around today that resembles Jim Crow is Affirmative Action, but what does that have to do with immigration? I could care less what 'Tom Tancredo' thinks, and you should to.

 

[spladle]

I don't believe this qualifies as racist and cannot, therefore, qualify as Jim Crow. The U.S. forcibly discriminates based upon nationality only with respect to immigration, not race.

Okay. Nationalism is a good deal worse than racism.

 

[Karsten]

Stuff like this makes me support Rand MORE, not less.

 

[anaconda]

Okay. Nationalism is a good deal worse than racism.

If a bunch of guys in white robes and hoods were trying to lynch me I might disagree.

 

[spladle]

If a bunch of guys in white robes were trying to lynch me I might disagree.

You'd be a fool to. That'd be like having a family member fall victim to gun violence and deciding on that basis to support gun control.

http://www.volokh.com/2009/12/01/against-nationalism/

 

[spladle]

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/12/patria_parenti.html