Tom Tancredo No Longer Supports Rand

[spladle]

Why do the Haitians who get near Miami Beach get rounded up before they can even step on American soil????? Why do we send them home en masse but we are terrified to even verbally insinuate such with the Hispanic bloc???????? Something is amiss. To the casual observer one would be led to believe that the illegal alien of Hispanic origin is a protected species above the law. Some animals are more equal than others. Too bad for those Haitians who are thrown to the wolves.

I agree with every word of this; the treatment of Haitians in Florida is abominable. A just people and a just society would welcome those poor souls with open arms.

 

[AuH20]

I agree with every word of this; the treatment of Haitians in Florida is abominable. A just people and a just society would welcome those poor souls with open arms.

But these poor people are black and don't have a multi-million dollar orgs pitching for them. I'm 100% for Haitians staying and forcing the hanger-ons of the aforementioned protected class to self-deport, by cutting the umbilical cord so to speak.

 

[spladle]

But these poor people are black and don't have a multi-million dollar orgs pitching for them. I'm 100% for Haitians staying and forcing the hanger-ons of the aforementioned protected class to self-deport, by cutting the umbilical cord so to speak.

While I do of course advocate the abolition of the welfare state (otherwise why would I have joined RPF, right?), I don't believe ending the welfare state and opening the borders would result in less immigration. I'm pretty confident it would result in far more. I don't view immigrants as leeches or moochers; for the most part, I see immigrants (legal and otherwise) as people flocking to the greatest country on the planet in search of freedom and opportunity.

 

[AuH20]

While I do of course advocate the abolition of the welfare state (otherwise why would I have joined RPF, right?), I don't believe ending the welfare state and opening the borders would result in less immigration. I'm pretty confident it would result in far more. I don't view immigrants as leeches or moochers; for the most part, I see immigrants (legal and otherwise) as people flocking to the greatest country on the planet in search of freedom and opportunity.

The ones that truly want to stay and wish to build a better future in the U.S. will persevere without the privileges and perks. The weak parasites will return to their country of origin. No one here is against immigrants, but we would like to see an environment that encourages potential citizens in training to take root here as opposed to foreign guests hanging out in the U.S. for the benefits. That's the major problem. Too many long term guests and not enough citizens in training. An environment based on merit would eliminate many of our immigration problems and this starts and ends with the welfare state.

 

[spladle]

The ones that truly want to stay and wish to build a better future in the U.S. will persevere without the privileges and perks. The weak parasites will return to their country of origin. No one here is against immigrants, but we would like to see an environment that encourages potential citizens in training to take root here as opposed to foreign guests hanging out in the U.S. for the benefits. That's the major problem. Too many long term guests and not enough citizens in training.

I suppose we simply have an empirical disagreement about just how prevalent parasitic behavior is amongst immigrants. Most of what I've read has lead me to believe it's not a serious problem that should concern us (and yes, I've done a fair bit of reading at vdare and taki's mag in addition to more mainstream sources). Even if it were, though, my moral senses just kinda get short-circuited with outrage at the thought of what you describe going on in Miami w/ potential Haitian immigrants. I think an increase in the size of the welfare state would be a reasonable price to pay for diminishing the harsh impact of immigration restrictions on the world's poor.

 

[AuH20]

I suppose we simply have an empirical disagreement about just how prevalent parasitic behavior is amongst immigrants. Most of what I've read has lead me to believe it's not a serious problem that should concern us (and yes, I've done a fair bit of reading at vdare and taki's mag in addition to more mainstream sources). Even if it were, though, my moral senses just kinda get short-circuited with outrage at the thought of what you describe going on in Miami w/ potential Haitian immigrants. I think an increase in the size of the welfare state would be a reasonable price to pay for diminishing the harsh impact of immigration restrictions on the world's poor.

It's largely a human condition issue that transcends race more than often than not. Where people can get certain perks and feel more comfortable thanks to multi-lingual aids and other crutches, they are going to flock to that particular area. It is my opinion that this misleading magnet needs to be smashed into a million pieces.

 

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