Today's the debate! OFFICIAL 9/7 debate thread!

Except for the last question, which there was a hearty applause, it was not a good night, I think most of us feel it, if we are honest and realistic. This is still a 4 person race.
 
LiveFree79 said:
I've watched this debate from the very beginning. Ron Paul is almost embarrassing to listen to. I hate to say it as I love the guy and agree with a lot of what he says. But he will not win with his incoherent rants and silly little glibs that he tries to be funny with. His AC comment about the troops and FEMA burned him. His rant about a border fence keeping Americans in got zero applause and was embarrassing. People don't want to hear crap like that. He could have answered the drug border war question brillianty by following up with his legalization of drugs and taxing marijuana production but he just rambled trying to fit in several arguments. Using words like ALL, END, ABOLISH, i.e. absolutes will never get him anywhere. He needs to play politics a little bit. He made a comment about $2.00 gas and brought up a 10 cent silver piece worth $3.50..........ok that went right over everyone's head obviously....INSTEAD HE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FED INFLATING THE MONEY SUPPLY WHICH IS WHAT HIS POINT WAS!!!!!!! Sorry but Ron Paul is done. He he spoke like Herman Cain who I hate he'd have the nomination already.
Click to expand...

I'm sorry, but it appears you are turning into one of the sheep you so despise for their ignorance. You can't stupidify Ron's message, so stop acting like he shoul start talking like Romney or Bachmann. You're really turning this into a negative nancy thing that detracts from intelligent debate. You will NEVER be happy with what Ron says because you are so full of your own preconceived ideas on what Ron should say. You will never be happy because you're a nit-picker, and I'm sorry, but the negativity needs to stop. I can't even believe people are trying to discouarage people from being cheerful about Ron getting the message of liberty out! Everything he said was a token of truth, and you are simp[ly spoiling the party by saying "nag this and nag that, Ron is an old man who needs to shut up and/or be like Romney." It's not going to work. Stop acting like everything Ron says is nothing but a ramble. It's intelligence, and that's what we need to impart. We can't encourage this ignorance in the public by responding to it. We respond to intelligent debate and good truthy points. That's what wins debates, not freaking pandering. You are a shame on the entire Ron Paul community.
 
damn! I had been hoping to escape to a free and properous Mexico when TSHTF....But now Ron is telling me I'll be trapped in America.


sorry guys....but our man is getting too old. That was a ridiculous statement and he is looking tired.

I dont love rand as much as I do Ron......but perhaps Pops should have stepped asided and let his sharper son take on this monumental challenge.
 
This debate was a waste of time.. And Ron Paul's comments on the 'fence keeping us in' was totally uncalled for- whether he's right or wrong- if he wants to get rid of the 'nut' label- he should leave out the 'speculative' and almost 'conspiracy' remarks out of his answers. I'm being totally honest here. That answer was NOT good.
 
Restore-America-NOW said:
Guys, I literally have a headache and I think my enthusiasm for Ron Paul has been crushed for at least a few weeks. I guess I'm going to go drink something and entertain myself on the boobtube before bed. Good night my fellow patriots and pray to god we have a miracle :(
Click to expand...

Chin up. There's a long way to go until the primaries start. Ron Paul is polling better nationally, and particularly in Iowa and NH, than I would ever have thought he could, if you had asked me back in November 2008. His support is growing, his campaign is well-funded, he has hired real professionals to advise and cut ads for him. His being ignored at a debate isn't going to stop any of that.
 
PaulConventionWV said:
I'm sorry, but it appears you are turning into one of the sheep you so despise for their ignorance. You can't stupidify Ron's message, so stop acting like he shoul start talking like Romney or Bachmann. You're really turning this into a negative nancy thing that detracts from intelligent debate. You will NEVER be happy with what Ron says because you are so full of your own preconceived ideas on what Ron should say. You will never be happy because you're a nit-picker, and I'm sorry, but the negativity needs to stop. I can't even believe people are trying to discouarage people from being cheerful about Ron getting the message of liberty out! Everything he said was a token of truth, and you are simp[ly spoiling the party by saying "nag this and nag that, Ron is an old man who needs to shut up and/or be like Romney." It's not going to work. Stop acting like everything Ron says is nothing but a ramble. It's intelligence, and that's what we need to impart. We can't encourage this ignorance in the public by responding to it. We respond to intelligent debate and good truthy points. That's what wins debates, not freaking pandering. You are a shame on the entire Ron Paul community.
Click to expand...

+rep

We can't become what we're fighting to change.
 
icon124 said:
so basically we should sugar coat everything and feed you B.S. so you'll be happy like the dead zombies in the rest of the country....not why I am voting for him...I'm voting for him because he tells the truth...no rambling just truth...you must be used to used to the sound bite answers
Click to expand...

Oh please........cutting off the AC to the troops the end the wars? Yeah reall intelligent and informative. His infowarsesque border fence answer about a border fencing keeping Americans and their capital in GOT ZERO APPLAUSE and the audience was almost silent. He has failed miserably in putting forth his TRUE arguments. Instead he tries to pander to his fringe supporters that already understand what he stands for. That is why he WONT WIN! You can call me a troll or this and that all you want but it's FACT! He needs to EXPLAIN his positions more clearly and answer the whys and the hows......because as you say the average America voter is so dumbed down. You DO NOT talk about cutting off the AC for US troops. As much as I get his point statements like that do not appeal to the mainstream voters. As much as the wars need to end statements like that are off putting for the average American voter who vehemently supports their troops. It's just unnecessary comments like that that shadow his more important ideas and arguments.
 
AlexMerced said:
I don't think we gained much, but I don't think we lost much, Ron did some good evasion on two attempts to make him sound like he's without compassion (the minimum wage questions, and the Food program question) he took both of those and turned them around.

Although, he sounded awfully tired, not himself, and that borders fence answer was just awkward...
Click to expand...

I think we have to keep in mind the MSNBC host. I'm not sure I know any Fox lovers who would even watch the MSNBC debate.

Perhaps the right message got out for the viewers who were watching.

I do know that truth got some air time, and that's never a bad thing!:)


Bunkloco
 
PaulConventionWV said:
I'm sorry, but it appears you are turning into one of the sheep you so despise for their ignorance. You can't stupidify Ron's message, so stop acting like he shoul start talking like Romney or Bachmann. You're really turning this into a negative nancy thing that detracts from intelligent debate. You will NEVER be happy with what Ron says because you are so full of your own preconceived ideas on what Ron should say. You will never be happy because you're a nit-picker, and I'm sorry, but the negativity needs to stop. I can't even believe people are trying to discouarage people from being cheerful about Ron getting the message of liberty out! Everything he said was a token of truth, and you are simp[ly spoiling the party by saying "nag this and nag that, Ron is an old man who needs to shut up and/or be like Romney." It's not going to work. Stop acting like everything Ron says is nothing but a ramble. It's intelligence, and that's what we need to impart. We can't encourage this ignorance in the public by responding to it. We respond to intelligent debate and good truthy points. That's what wins debates, not freaking pandering. You are a shame on the entire Ron Paul community.
Click to expand...

Your Idea of "whatever Ron says, EVERYBODY will agree to it" scares me.

edit: We know what Ron is trying to say, but everybody else does not understand
 
Last edited:
So... Where do we go from here?

I mean, this has discouraged me beyond belief. I never expected them to push Perry that hard, and I never expected them to completely ignore Ron for the last 30 minutes. How fucking obvious can they be?

Ron's answer on the fence was absolutely horrible. I know, I'm a troll for saying it, but let's face it, even if it has some credibility, it was a stupid thing to say.

Now for the media shit storm. I bet Perry didn't lose a single vote over that debate.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Occam's Banana
The oficially **official** Vance vs. Walz "debate" thread
2 3 4
Replies
77
Views
26K
Occam's Banana
Occam's Banana
W
Tim Walz on Debate The expansion of Israel and its proxies necessity for the United States
Replies
1
Views
363
vita3
V
PAF
Debate: Jacob Hornberger vs. Walter Block re: libertarianism and Israel
Replies
7
Views
943
PAF
PAF
PAF
Gabbard Falls in Line, Claims Iran Close to Nukes
Replies
11
Views
172
CCTelander
C
Anti Federalist
ABC Moderator Linsey Davis Admits: ‘Fact-checking’ Was Only Planned for Trump
Replies
4
Views
760
jmdrake
jmdrake
Back
Top