Today's the debate! OFFICIAL 9/7 debate thread!

[angelatc]

I just threw up in my mouth a little. Romney saying bring the troops home?

 

[IndianaPolitico]

I thought the answer Ron gave about the fence was good. I think he should of hit the fact that the excuse for the Berlin wall was that "It will keep the bad guys out."

 

[DrN0]

save ur donation til 9/17 Constitution Day Money Bomb

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?314136-9-7-Debate-RPF-Mini-Bomb&p=3536554#post3536554

Who's in? I'm donating $100 after the debate tonight!

Let's reward Ron and the campaign for a great performance and a kickass last few days of press following the ad and Benson's response to Perry

Also, note how they are ALL throwing in Ron Paul-isms, like bring troops home (Huntsman - out of nowhere!), "free markets", "free trade", etc...

 

[Arklatex]

I think he should use his time to drop the truth bomb. Stop playing along with their game and tell it like it is. He isn't running for congress any longer, time to tell the truth. Talk about the media, the party and these clowns. Let everyone know how things really are. That will resonate. Explaining 100 mph in 30 seconds is what they want, instead just talk slow and reveal.

 

[Matt Collins]

Doubling debt, balancing books through accounting tricks
Rick Perry Doubled Texas’ Debt, Then Balanced Budget Through Accounting Gimmicks

Texas debt has doubled under Perry
According to the Texas Bond Review Board's annual reports, Texas had $34.08 billion in outstanding bonds and notes as of Aug. 31 — the end of the 2009 fiscal year.
Perry took office Dec. 21, 2000 — nearly five months into fiscal year 2001. At the end of that year, Texas had $13.7 billion in outstanding bonds and notes. Adjusting for inflation, that would have equaled $16.6 billion in 2009.
Politifact 4.10.10

Texas spending kept rising for years with Perry as governor (spending through 2011, adjusted for population and inflation, rose more on average while Perry has been in charge than it did under his predecessor, George W. Bush). “Perry took the reins in December 2000. From then until 2011, spending increased an average of 16.8 percent every two years. Once adjusted for population and inflation, that rate falls to 4.2 percent.”

Texas Debt to GDP ratio - 18.6%

• Debt Clock

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

This is a very good opportunity for RP to shine, if they bother to ask him for his input...

 

[SilentBull]

Everyone saying Ron is a off for saying what he said about the fence: Ever heard of the Berlin Wall?

Have you ever heard of American voters? It's not people like you and me that we are worried about. Understand the audience that just watched him say that.

 

[tremendoustie]

I think ron's performance has been outstanding thus far.

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Everyone saying Ron is a off for saying what he said about the fence: Ever heard of the Berlin Wall?

You obviously do not understand how the American Public works today. They only comprehend soundbites.

Here is a sample of the chatter on twitter.

Davoh Dave O'Hara
Did Ron Paul just say that asking everyone to get vaccinations is "not good medicine"? Really?

blogdiva Liza Sabater
RT @EliClifton: Ron Paul - "The fence will be used to keep us in." Did he just cross over into black-helicopter territory?

DaveMaass Dave Maass
Did Ron Paul just say we should take away the troops' A/C?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

DAMNIT!! ron paul is so real and realistic he sounds crazy.....

damn damn this world we live in. generations from now his name is gonna be a legend.

I hear you, but come on, guys. Why is this bad? Why? I thought Ron did great (so far, it's not over). Why are you all so pessimistic and so nit-picky? Ron had a great answer on immigration, on the economy, on Rick Perry, I thought he did great. He's just speaking hard truth, and we all know that hasn't been popular per se, but that's our message, like it or not. Ron articulated it pretty well tonight. We expect too much.

 

[Badger Paul]

Looks like we've got a conservative-libertarian split here on "keep us in"

 

[Ronulus]

after 5 minutes "Time governor"

 

[therealist]

Venture capitalists arent interested in making jobs, they want profits. Romney a complete phony

 

[Razmear]

Wow, they just dialed Perry more tan. Wierd

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

Ronald Reagan doesn't support fences on the border. He did tell Gorbachev to tear down a border fence.

 

[kill the banks]

Super courageous. The "fence keeps us in" line will be the most remembered and talked-about moment of tonight's debate.

in a true sense of what the neocons want it is history ringing the liberty bell

 

[sorianofan]

This is the worst RP debate performance ever. He's polling 3rd, he's a front runner. He needs to act like it, and tell the truth about foreign policy.

 

[Harry96]

I'm absolutely appalled at how many of you think that fence comment was bad. A fence or wall that's able to keep people out, assuming that such a thing could -- much less should -- be built, could also be used to keep us in. Not that it's a guarantee that it would be used in such a manner, but it could be. That's so obvious that I can't believe anyone could disagree with it, and anyone who would is so dumb and naive that it wouldn't be worth the effort to explain it to them further.

I guess I can see their perspective, though: no one in government ever lies about the real purpose of any government action beforehand, and government as an institution certainly has no record of physically restraining people within its arbitrary borders, or in prisons or concentration camps. That's all just nutty conspiracy stuff.

 

[Ranger29860]

lol that glithed in the camera there made perry look like satan

 

[SilentBull]

WOW! Rick Perry is Ron Paul now. It's official.