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Forum, please help.

During the Fox debate a few weeks back, there was live polling. Can the forum help me to figure out where to go for live polling of the Reagan Library debate?

I'll get to work on my end, and will report what I find. Please help me.

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A Tale of Two Rons

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"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." - Ronald Reagan


ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT

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"Reagan, a former governor, expressed the anti-Washington, anti-establishment feelings so strong in the grass roots." (Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., The Deseret News. August 21, 1976)

"What Reagan men will have as their principal arguments to the crucial uncommitted will be – There is a strong anti-Washington, anti-establishment sentiment in the country today, and Reagan can win its support." (Roscoe Drummond, The Press-Courier. June 13, 1976)

"His disdain for government, for overbearing, over-meddling, over-regulating government, providing a ready answer for any challenge put to him. Government was the source for all our problems – inflation, the sagging economy or general dissatisfaction with the state of things." (Gotbaum and Handman, St. Petersburg Times. July 1, 1981)

Sound familiar?

"Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign, with its message of limited government and its anti-Establishment ethos, created a kind of do-it-yourself model for the current activism shaking up politics around the country." (Michael Crowley, TIME. May 27, 2010)

"...many of his [Ron Paul's] ideas have been appropriated by the kinds of mainstream Republicans who used to snort when he talked. Mr. Paul is probably the most consistently anti-Washington politician in all of Washington." (Ross Ramsey, New York Times. July 16, 2011)

Ron Paul framed it as "a fight that could literally change our country." Anti-Washington from the day he stepped foot on Capitol Hill in 1976, Paul was the tea party before the tea party. (Alex Leary, St. Petersburg Times. August 11, 2011)​


OUTSIDE THE MAINSTREAM

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"Ronald Reagan … [was] seeking to defuse President Ford’s contention that he is 'too far to the right.'" (Pittsburg Post-Gazette. February 21, 1976)

"His Republican opponents are … trying to derail Ronald Reagan on the ground that he is ultraconservative. It is a very debatable that Reagan is outside the mainstream of American political thinking at this time." (The Rock Hill Herald. November 29, 1975)

"Mr. Reagan is outside the mainstream,thus giving him the support of the disenchanted.” (The Times-News. January 28, 1976)​
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Sound familiar?​

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"Paul has some intriguing ideas but, all told, he's too far out of the political/ideological mainstream to be elected, no matter how much attention he gets." (Eric Zorn, Chicago Tribune. August 16, 2011)

"Mr. Paul spent years … spouting ideas that were outside the boundaries of mainstream Republican thinking." (Ross Ramsey, New York Times. July 16, 2011)​


UNELECTABILITY

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Gerald Ford said Ronald Reagan was "unelectable, too conservative." He continued, saying Reagan "can't win the national election." (Associated Press. March 3, 1980)

In regard to Reagan being an effective president: "Not Ronald Reagan. He comes out of the extreme right wing of American politics. If we are to believe his words, he would like to dismantle the federal government in the hope of returning to simpler times." (St. Petersburg Times. October 18, 1980)

Sound familiar?

“Their support is wide and shallow; his [Ron Paul’s] is narrow and deep. And that means he cannot be nominated.” (Bruce Ramsey, Seattle Times. August 16, 2011)

"He doesn't have the breadth of support that's needed to capture the nomination." (Dan Amira, New York Magazine. August 16, 2011)​


HISTORIC CPAC VICTORIES
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From the article entitled Reagan Gains Fringe Support: "Conservatives ... now are concentrating on winning the Republican nomination for Ronald Reagan. The former California governor handily won a presidential preference straw poll Sunday at the Conservative Political Action Conference. (Associated Press. February 16, 1976)

Sound familiar?

"Ron Paul emerged victorious in the Conservative Political Action Conference's annual presidential straw poll,the second straight year that the libertarian-leaning Texas Congressman has won the vote." (Cillizza and Weiner, Washington Post. February 12, 2011)​
 
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