Today's the debate! OFFICIAL 9/7 debate thread!

[lucky_bg]

Any confirmation Perry isn't still off fighting fires and will actually be there?

That's my worst fear for tonight.

 

[PastaRocket848]

his campaign has confirmed he'll be there. it was on google news yesterday... can't remember what site.

 

[KramerDSP]

Folks, we MUST remind ourselves that we can't get too low or too high. I suggest that we will be too emotionally invested in the proceedings to provide an accurate critique. So, to the rainmakers who will cry and pout and throw tantrums on these boards, please try and at least wait a few hours before posting. There will be new folks coming to the forum tonight and we want to have mandatory optimism.

With that said, tonight's performance will likely determine if Ron Paul re-awakens the Reaganites. If he does, he probably becomes the President. Amazing. Ron freaking Paul could actually become the President.

 

[CaptUSA]

Folks, we MUST remind ourselves that we can't get too low or too high. I suggest that we will be too emotionally invested in the proceedings to provide an accurate critique. So, to the rainmakers who will cry and pout and throw tantrums on these boards, please try and at least wait a few hours before posting. There will be new folks coming to the forum tonight and we want to have mandatory optimism.

With that said, tonight's performance will likely determine if Ron Paul re-awakens the Reaganites. If he does, he probably becomes the President. Amazing. Ron freaking Paul could actually become the President.

Maybe the wisest post this month!

 

[Canderson]

Is it not airing on cnbc? Its not on the schedule

 

[eaglesfan48]

Are we all ready to hit the polls after the debate?

 

[PastaRocket848]

does it really matter? they don't report on them.

 

[MJU1983]

http://twitter.com/#!/mju1983/status/111516681859366912

^ Feel free to RT.

 

[Canderson]

Is it not airing on cnbc? Its not on the schedule

????????

 

[MJU1983]

Is it not airing on cnbc? Its not on the schedule

It's on MSNBC.

 

[anewvoice]

Folks, we MUST remind ourselves that we can't get too low or too high. I suggest that we will be too emotionally invested in the proceedings to provide an accurate critique. So, to the rainmakers who will cry and pout and throw tantrums on these boards, please try and at least wait a few hours before posting. There will be new folks coming to the forum tonight and we want to have mandatory optimism.

With that said, tonight's performance will likely determine if Ron Paul re-awakens the Reaganites. If he does, he probably becomes the President. Amazing. Ron freaking Paul could actually become the President.

I do feel we're all worked into a tithy here, resulting from the ad of course. Prior to that ad I was ho hum about the debate and now I'm dying to see the fireworks. This is a huge risk/reward moment and I sincerely hope Ron Paul NAILS it tonight.

See, in 2 sentences I got all hyped up and i was trying to affirm your comment.

 

[Arklatex]

Fingers crossed for an A-game performance that stuns the viewing public and makes them reconsider the only person on stage who does not represent the status quo, Congressman Ron Paul.

eye!

I pray to God: that tonight nothing less or more than the true character of the candidates are made apparent to the viewers!

 

[MelissaCato]

Why is everyone Tweeting Rick Perry already I see ... gezzzz where are all the Ron Paul Tweeters ? Rick Perry is about to Trend prolly.. darn it.

 

[Canderson]

It's on MSNBC.

The debate thread here on the forums says its supposed to be on CNBC too. Damn, now I have to watch it on the computer

 

[Bruno]

Nearly 1,000 views and the debate doesn't start for hours.

 

[SpicyTurkey]

When does the debate start?

 

[PastaRocket848]

8:00est i believe.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

What channel is MSNBC in a standard cable package? I'm worried I won't have it. Is there a live stream?

 

[Arklatex]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...s-Rick-Perry-Who-is-Ronald-Reagan-s-true-heir

Representative Paul started this tussle with an attack ad aimed at Texas Governor Perry. Perry’s the front-runner now, so he’s going to have to get used to the other hopefuls coming after him.

Anyway, the Paul ad is called “The One Who Stood With Reagan.” It starts with the blunt words, “The establishment called him extreme and unelectable. They said he was the wrong man for the job.”

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The narrator is talking about Mr. Reagan there – but yes, we know, that’s what all the pundits are saying about Paul today. The ad goes on to say that Paul was attracted to Reagan’s message of smaller government and lower taxes and that he was one of only four congressmen to endorse him for president.

Then comes the scary music, so you know the punch is about to come. “After Reagan, Al Gore ran for president ... pushing his liberal values,” says the ad, “and Al Gore found a cheerleader in Texas named Rick Perry.”

(It’s true that Perry ran a Gore presidential effort in Texas. That was before he switched parties and became a Republican.)

“Now America must decide who to trust: Al Gore’s Texas cheerleader or the one who stood with Reagan,” the Paul ad concludes.

Perry responded to Paul’s linking him with Mr. Gore with a news release titled, “Ron Paul’s Reagan Revisionism.”

This release points out the inconvenient truth that Paul resigned from the GOP in 1987 over frustration with then-President Reagan’s policies.

“There is no credibility left for the Republican Party as a force to reduce the size of government,” Paul wrote in 1987.

What’s our reaction? First of all, the Paul ad plays a little fast and loose with timing. When it mentions that Paul was one of four congressmen to back Reagan’s presidential effort, it does not say that the effort in question was an earlier Reagan try, in 1976. Lots of GOP members were behind him in 1980. Nor does the ad mention that Perry ran Sen. Al Gore’s Texas campaign for president in 1988, as opposed to Vice President Gore’s presidential effort in 2000.

That said, we think the Perry camp has more to answer for. On Perry’s campaign website, they provide a link to Paul’s 1987 resignation letter, and Perry aides either did not read that letter or are counting on the fact that few other people will.

Because Paul resigned from the GOP – and we remember this incident – because the party under Reagan was unsuccessful in reducing the size of government. As the letter notes, between 1981 and 1987, the national debt doubled. Government spending grew by 10.4 percent annually. Tax revenues increased 59 percent during the period – and not because of economic growth.

“The new revenues are due to four giant Republican tax increases since 1981,” Paul wrote back then.

So you could argue that Paul resigned from the party because he was consistent in his beliefs – not because he didn’t like Reagan.

If asked to choose between Ron Paul and Rick Perry, what would Reagan do? We think that’s an interesting question for you to discuss amongst yourselves.

 

[Tarzan]

I think this is the Politico Live Stream:

http://www.politico.com/livestream/

My ad blockers won't let me watch it on MSNBC.