Thought y'all would want to know what Occupy DC thinks of Ron Paul

Maybe it's just me, but it seems to me the demographic of "Republican primary voters who are smart enough to know what anarcho-capitalism is but dumb enough to confuse it with constitutionalism and not vote for someone based on that confusion" has to be pretty small.
 
Haha. That guy being interviewed after the salon.com reporter is obviously a reddit guy. He can't stand Ron Paul.

Good job Adam, it's extremely amusing, and quite sad that these people think what we have now is capitalism and capitalism is controlled by government.

Haha, I love how he just starts shouting after he gives his pretty terrible argument against Ron Paul. Then you explain the inflation tax, and he tells you the conversation belongs in a freshman dorm room :rolleyes:.

Ya, Adam should not give concepts like "inflation tax" to these people. They are wrong and they are in a different paradigm. He should have said do you not understand that the more money that is produced the more prices go up? Do you not realize that? Have you not been to the grocery store in the last year? That is due to the federal reserve CREATING money. These people think they know something, and they do, but they do not know the cause. He should start out with finding an agreed-upon point and then try to lead them to the truth. We need their passion and activism. These are not just people who complain and then think they have done enough. They know something is wrong, but maybe they do not care about freedom. Maybe they do not like smoking pot or eating natural foods or taking vitamins or owning guns. (Somehow I don't think so, but I could be wrong..) Too bad none of these going on in my hick town..I would not mind at least once trying to talk to them.
 
Haha. That guy being interviewed after the salon.com reporter is obviously a reddit guy. He can't stand Ron Paul.

Good job Adam, it's extremely amusing, and quite sad that these people think what we have now is capitalism and capitalism is controlled by government.

Haha, I love how he just starts shouting after he gives his pretty terrible argument against Ron Paul. Then you explain the inflation tax, and he tells you the conversation belongs in a freshman dorm room :rolleyes:.

I looked up the word douche in the dictionary, and that kids face was there.
 
That kid in the white shirt was... ummmm.... I'm not even sure how to put it into words...
 
Why in the world would I care about Lew Rockwell's definition of terms you used to engage me? That has zero relevance to why I asked you to define it yourself.

Because I figured he was one of your idols.

There can be a government that exists without force, to answer your question. Beyond that, I'm not interested in getting into an anarchy discussion with you. It doesn't interest me at all. I am focused on Ron Paul's platform and campaign.
 
And because we are not there, those 3 people who know little of economics or political philosophy will become the intellectual leaders of others who show up to protest something they (feel) to be wrong.

They have attention and numbers and that will make people look that way. We all should do what we can to be a part of this and take over the intellectual core of the movement.

If the dollar collapses today, these people will become insanely powerful overnight and we have left it vacant to be filled with commys and saps.
 
And because we are not there, those 3 people who know little of economics or political philosophy will become the intellectual leaders of others who show up to protest something they (feel) to be wrong.

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Anyone want to head over there after VVS on Saturday?

I am dying to hold a sign that says "We'll All Probably Just Vote For Obama Again."

But maybe I'll just stick with "END THE FED"
 
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Because I figured he was one of your idols.

Um... O... kay?

I don't know what gave you that idea, and I don't know why it would even be relevant if that were the case.

You accused me of conflating "the state" and "all government". I asked you to define "government" (the way you were using it) so that I could agree or disagree with you. You responded by telling me to "ask Lew Rockwell" (huh?). I asked why and you told me "I figured he was one of your idols."

what? I don't know what in the world you're trying to do here.

There can be a government that exists without force, to answer your question. Beyond that, I'm not interested in getting into an anarchy discussion with you. It doesn't interest me at all. I am focused on Ron Paul's platform and campaign.

Edit: actually I'm not entirely sure about what you mean by that statement, and since you don't want to further talk about it this isn't going to get resolved.

You're the one who brought it up. :rolleyes:
 
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I was on the fence on this, but that, and OathKeepers statement of attendance has convinced me we need to be part of this.

+rep

And because we are not there, those 3 people who know little of economics or political philosophy will become the intellectual leaders of others who show up to protest something they (feel) to be wrong.

They have attention and numbers and that will make people look that way. We all should do what we can to be a part of this and take over the intellectual core of the movement.

If the dollar collapses today, these people will become insanely powerful overnight and we have left it vacant to be filled with commys and saps.
 
I guess I'm going to be the first person who is not a big fan, and I do appreciate what Kokesh has done in the past.

I've heard the 'demands' of OWS. Yes, they are socialist. Whether the demands speak for everyone, I cannot say.

I know one thing:

Without winning these people over, we are fucked. We might be already, but this doesn't help.

I pray that the republicans in other states are receiving Ron Paul very well, but in Georgia, from what I have seen, the Old Guard is alive and well, and we're going to need a shit-ton of independents and (yes) even democrats to flood the primary ballot boxes if Ron Paul has any chance of carrying this state. When you go out and intentionally point out those who have disdain for Ron Paul, even though it is truthful for those individuals, it does not do anything but fuel a divide between a potential (albeit, far-fetched) coalition.

I'd go so far as to wager I'd have a better chance of convincing an OWS protestor to vote for Ron Paul than I could trying to convince a Cain supporter to vote for Ron Paul.

See, I'm all for getting votes for Dr. Paul. The problem is when you have to suck up to people in order to get it. Enough of this deciding which group of brain-washed idiots we should pander to. Education should always be our primary goal. Is this an educational campaign? No, not in the sense people have been using it, as a hopeless rant campaign. It's a campaign to win AND a campaign to educate. It has to be, or else we're not really making progress.

Oh, and you can forget about winning Georgia. Something tells me that's not the campaign's primary goal anyway.
 
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