Thought y'all would want to know what Occupy DC thinks of Ron Paul

[Sentient Void]

When there is little to comment on you have to kind of ornament it for the readers elucidation.. Mark my words though. Alot of people agree with me. Most of my reps are from banging it up with your crowd and hail from across the board..not just a few posters.

Rev9

Great, so people are actually +rep rewarding you for trolling us pure free market decentralists?

No wonder that's what you focus on - regardless of substance. You have people actually rewarding you for this vacuous trash.

And BTW, some alleged 'Appeal to Majority', true or not, is yet another intellectually dishonest fallacy.

 

[Revolution9]

Great, so people are actually +rep rewarding you for trolling us pure free market decentralists?

No. They are plus repping me for dealing effectively with a bunch of anarchists hiding behind labels who are disrupting a Ron Paul for Republican Primary Nomination for POTUS focused forum board and trying to bootstrap his philosophy into their narrow minded illusions by cherry picking small parts of his vast volume of writings on his thoughts whilst discarding vast swaths of it in the process. Very disingenuous of your lot to play these gambits under such pretense. This is not trolling. If you are defeated easily it is because your philosophy and methodologies are unsound. I am simply here to point that out every time you folks hijack a thread or try to stealthily violate the boards rules and introduce an anarchic based topic on a forum it does not belong on.

Rev9

 

[Danke]

No. They are plus repping me for dealing effectively with a bunch of anarchists hiding behind labels who are disrupting a Ron Paul for Republican Primary Nomination for POTUS focused forum board and trying to bootstrap his philosophy into their narrow minded illusions by cherry picking small parts of his vast volume of writings on his thoughts whilst discarding vast swaths of it in the process. Very disingenuous of your lot to play these gambits under such pretense. This is not trolling. If you are defeated easily it is because your philosophy and methodologies are unsound. I am simply here to point that out every time you folks hijack a thread or try to stealthily violate the boards rules and introduce an anarchic based topic on a forum it does not belong on.

Rev9

Finally a Rev9 post even I can understand. + rep, oops ran out of those.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Rev9:

I would say the anarchists/voluntaryists posting evidence that Ron may be a closet ancap should further drive home the point that there's zero chance Ron will sell out, that he's true to the bone small government, that he wouldn't be intimidated by some dudes showing him and his family JFK footage then asking, "got any questions?"

Look at the glass as half-full, not as half-empty.

 

[steph3n]

Now that THAT is settled business we return you back to the thread about Occupy Wall Street.

Rev9

Good luck. This thread's wheels have fallen off long ago. Right now it is a bus going down the mountainside.

There are certain people here that are trying their hardest to distract people, just ignore them!

 

[noneedtoaggress]

No. They are plus repping me for dealing effectively with a bunch of anarchists

Only if you consider this "dealing effectively":

The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant, vitriolic nonsense. You're interjecting to make irrelevant or ignorant remarks and attack the character of "those people you don't like" as if your cadence and belligerence could somehow make up for your useless statements. You're just embarrassing yourself.

If someone is +repping you on the basis of your vitriolic character attacks against a group they share a common disdain for, wouldn't that pretty much make them the "back-slappers"?

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hiding behind labels who are disrupting a Ron Paul for Republican Primary Nomination for POTUS focused forum board and trying to bootstrap his philosophy into their narrow minded illusions by cherry picking small parts of his vast volume of writings on his thoughts whilst discarding vast swaths of it in the process. Very disingenuous of your lot to play these gambits under such pretense.

This is hardly the case. Picking up on things that Ron says that you ignore because you view Ron within your own philosophical context is not "cherry picking".

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This is not trolling. If you are defeated easily it is because your philosophy and methodologies are unsound. I am simply here to point that out

I'll agree with you here about the trolling. You're not trolling. The end of a troll is to troll. You obviously write the vitriolic nonsense you do because you dislike the opposition.

Please describe what my methodologies are and what, precisely, makes them unsound.

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every time you folks hijack a thread or try to stealthily violate the boards rules and introduce an anarchic based topic on a forum it does not belong on.

The funny thing is it was your response to Ron Paul's name being mentioned in a segment where Adam advocated voluntaryism on his own YouTube show that prompted this entire thread to turn into what it has.

This thread wouldn't have become what it has if LibertyEagle hadn't gotten all tripped up over the fact that Adam Kokesh mentioned Ron Paul's name in a segment where he was personally advocating voluntaryism on his own show.

It was a completely minor event, and now it's a thread examining Ron's "anarchist leanings" in close detail with evidence.

Whoops.

Oh really?

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Ya know. I could give a goddamn about what Murray Rothbard said. I rarely appeal to authority. I use common sense and thought experiment. I remember facts. I create my opinions based on those facts. I don't need icons telling me what to think nor do I reference them to reinforce the paradigm of my parrotry as you do. Is there an original thinker amongst the lot of you..or are ya'all just a bunch of youngsters trying to get to grips with the real world?

Rev9

For instance, here PCWV pretends there's nothing worthwhile "outside this box of thought". Ancap is irrelevant and useless because it's just impossible and anyone with their head on straight should know that because it's "common sense". That's how it is: end of story, now off to something more worthwhile. They don't need to understand the argument, it's "anarchy" and that means it's a Utopian dreamworld and something that no one is ever going to go for in a million years.

The state is just a fact of life and that's just how we have to deal with it.

And obviously, since Ron Paul has "common sense", he understands this to be the case and anything outside that context is dark sorcery and 'illegitimate labelling' regardless of any evidence to the contrary.

Yeah, you never listen to anyone cuz your too independant and individualistic and awesome, everyone who disagrees with you is just a "youngster trying to get grips with the real world" committing fallacious appeals to authority.

Should have listened to your swarshbucklin' testicular shotgunnin' err'body should know this by now unless they're a peg-legged scallywag "common sense" instead of cracking open writings by those Austrians who have lost all their "common sense", hahahaha.

Speaking of which...

 

[ClayTrainor]

In threads that are posted outside of the philosophy section it is usually not the Anarchists who bring up anarchy. It's almost always the anti-anarchists. This thread is yet another example of just that.

Perhaps we are wrong for taking the bait and contributing to the derail of the thread, but it's important to note who is putting out the bait in the first place.

I'll agree with you here about the trolling. You're not trolling. The end of a troll is to troll. You obviously write the vitriolic nonsense you do because you dislike the opposition.

If you disagree with Rev9 on a topic, and also happen to be an anarchist, he will ignore your argument on that particular subject and will proceed attack you for simply being an anarchist. He has consistently demonstrated this in numerous threads that are about Intellectual Property, Economics, etc. and have nothing to do with anarchy or anarchists. Such behavior makes it very hard to have a reasonable and logical discussion on said topics. He has also bragged about being +repped by a mod of this forum for engaging in such behavior.

It's interesting because he claims to be supporting Ron Paul and his ideas, but I'm not aware of Ron Paul ever once attacking anarcho-capitalists or their philosophy. In fact, Ron Paul constantly recommends people read and understand literature from numerous an-caps and even invites them to speak to congress.

 

[steph3n]

If you disagree with Rev9 on a topic, and also happen to be an anarchist, he will ignore your argument on that particular subject and will proceed attack you for simply being an anarchist. He has consistently demonstrated this in numerous threads that are about Intellectual Property, Economics, etc. and have nothing to do with anarchy or anarchists. Such behavior makes it very hard to have a reasonable and logical discussion on said topics. He has also bragged about being +repped by a mod of this forum for engaging in such behavior.

It's interesting because he claims to be supporting Ron Paul and his ideas, but I'm not aware of Ron Paul ever once attacking anarcho-capitalists or their philosophy. In fact, Ron Paul constantly recommends people read and understand literature from numerous an-caps and even invites them to speak to congress.

In threads that are posted outside of the philosophy section it is usually not the Anarchists who bring up anarchy. It's almost always the anti-anarchists. This thread is yet another example of just that.

really it just has a lot more to do with a number of people on both sides being willing and ready to derail any thread at any time over ancap or many other issues, without thinking or reflection to the topic at hand. We have sections for such debate, and it isn't in EVERY THREAD.

I learn a lot from such discussions, but they royally piss me off when threads are completely derailed by continued loads of drivel from all sides. Once a subject goes in circles 15 times, it is simply useless drivel.

 

[ClayTrainor]

really it just has a lot more to do with a number of people on both sides being willing and ready to derail any thread at any time over ancap or many other issues, without thinking or reflection to the topic at hand. We have sections for such debate, and it isn't in EVERY THREAD.

I learn a lot from such discussions, but they royally piss me off when threads are completely derailed by continued loads of drivel from all sides. Once a subject goes in circles 15 times, it is simply useless drivel.

You're right, and I can sympathize with that. I am part of that problem, no doubt.

Perhaps we are wrong for taking the bait and contributing to the derail of the thread, but it's important to note who is putting out the bait in the first place.

I apologize for participating in the derail of this thread.

 

[Seraphim]

Exactly.

The foundation for ANCAP thought is the issue of security/defence/enforcement.

LOL, ancap pretty much started with the security issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_de_Molinari

 

[heavenlyboy34]

That is great. Wow, that is maybe the most ignorant bunch of idiots I've seen yet. This even outdoes the mainstream Republican voters because these people are actually being activists for the government. Many other voters are just ignorant, but these people know what's going on and they propose the same thing to an even greater extent when what they are suggesting has obviously failed. I can't think of anything more hypocritical. THIS is why we should not involve ourselves with the Occupy Wall St. thing. Forget all this theoretical togetherness that we share with fellow angered citizens. These people are part of the problem, not the solution.

+infinity