The Zimmerman Trial

[Ender]

However, sometimes when marijuana is used it can cause fear, anxiety, panic or paranoia, which can result in an aggressive outburst.​

Marijuana: Factsheets: Aggression
http://adai.uw.edu/marijuana/factsheets/aggression.htm

Factsheet from someone who never smoked a joint.

 

[FrankRep]

I wasn't talking about this forum and I'm not female.

And, of course a hoodie has nothing to do with it- that's why it was so blinkin' irritating to have forums of people say he was guilty because of how he dressed.

The leftist news sources you're reading likely said it. You believed the propaganda.

 

[Ender]

The leftist news sources you're reading likely said it. You believed the propaganda.

No, it was the neocon news sources that you are reading that said it. You believe everything that Zimmerman says.

 

[CaptUSA]

Really, folks. This discussion should demonstrate that there is reasonable doubt in this case. It is not unreasonable to believe a multitude of scenarios that may have played out. Therefore -> NOT guilty.

The rest of this is just sideshow.

 

[krugminator]

I like how the coverage of Zimmerman has been overwhelmingly negative and people say there is a need to balance the coverage for Trayvon Martin. Even on this site the opinions are slightly skewed against Zimmerman. The only reason I started paying attention was because I saw so many people dogging Zimmerman when I read this thread.

The correct result of this trial with 2nd degree murder charges isn't close.

 

[dannno]

Here's one that bodes well for Ender et al.: Marvin was high on the reefer.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/trayvon-martin-marijuana-usage-657901

Who gets violent on the reefer?

It says there was some in his system, but it could have been from a week or two prior since it can stay in your system for weeks. What sucks is that they never mention whether they are testing for THC or THC metabolites.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Really, folks. This discussion should demonstrate that there is reasonable doubt in this case. It is not unreasonable to believe a multitude of scenarios that may have played out. Therefore -> NOT guilty.

The rest of this is just sideshow.

That's how I see it too.

 

[KingNothing]

A witness says Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, and punching. Martin's fist was bruised and had a slight cut. Zimmerman had a broken nose. Zimmerman claims self defense.

Given those FACTS a murder two charge is completely impossible. Impossible. Impossible. Not going to happen.

If one argues that Zimmerman truly feared for his life, but shouldn't have, manslaughter is possible. As the trial goes on, a conviction on that charge also seems to be less and less likely.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Race wars are coming!!!!!

Hide your kids hide your wife.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I'm not talking about this thread, I'm talking about **articles**. This thread is the product of this small group of people who are more likely to lean right, politically, so it's not shocking to me that you'd find more sympathy for GZ over TM.

Why? Why would people on this forum be more likely to favor GZ over TM. GZ was a nosy neighbor wanna-be cop who liked to get involved in everyone's shit. TM was a teen who was minding his own business (oh and he did drugs).

Usually the people on this forum would be more likely to stick up for a TM type than a GZ type. Why is this case different? Why would you expect people to support GZ?

 

[TheTexan]

No, it was the neocon news sources that you are reading that said it. You believe everything that Zimmerman says.

Theres difference between believing everything he says, and having nothing to convict him with. Or even charge him with, for that matter

 

[TheTexan]

Really, folks. This discussion should demonstrate that there is reasonable doubt in this case. It is not unreasonable to believe a multitude of scenarios that may have played out. Therefore -> NOT guilty.

The rest of this is just sideshow.

Nah, he was looking for trouble. I just know it. -> GUILTY

 

[cajuncocoa]

TM was a teen who was minding his own business.

...until he didn't and decided to attack the guy who was following him.

 

[green73]

good thread.

 

[Pisces]

Are any of the people who still think Zimmerman stalked and then murdered Trayvon actually watching the trial? To be honest, the trial testimony doesn't show Zimmerman as a bully or an arrogant wannabe cop. The prosection's case is a joke.

 

[green73]

Are any of the people who still think Zimmerman stalked and then murdered Trayvon actually watching the trial? To be honest, the trial testimony doesn't show Zimmerman as a bully or an arrogant wannabe cop. The prosection's case is a joke.

It's a ginormous joke.

 

[amy31416]

Why? Why would people on this forum be more likely to favor GZ over TM. GZ was a nosy neighbor wanna-be cop who liked to get involved in everyone's shit. TM was a teen who was minding his own business (oh and he did drugs).

Usually the people on this forum would be more likely to stick up for a TM type than a GZ type. Why is this case different? Why would you expect people to support GZ?

Because he was dressed like a punk and had some sketchy events in his past involving alleged thuggery, drug use, etc., and conservative people generally don't support those kinds of folks.

If it was some ordinary person, like the businessman who was stalked and attacked in the DC subway, sure. They'd be giving him the benefit of the doubt if he'd shot one of the teen girls who attacked him. Just like they gave that black kid who beat the living shit out of that girl who jumped the McDonald's counter. She was a punk, he was a kid who had a job. It's a difference of their "value" in society and people evaluate that.

Zimmerman was a non-cop, family man, pro-2nd person who allegedly stepped up to watch out for his neighbors. You really expect people here to back someone who's portrayed as a punk (in the conservative media, which most here read) over someone who's portrayed as a pro-2nd protector of his neighborhood? If all I watched/read was Fox News conservative news sites, I'd be 100% pro-Zimmerman too.

I know you think I'm racist because I will remove myself from a situation where I see someone who's "shady," but that has nothing to do with this. However, I do think you're incredibly shallow for considering me racist because of it.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I like how the coverage of Zimmerman has been overwhelmingly negative and people say there is a need to balance the coverage for Trayvon Martin. Even on this site the opinions are slightly skewed against Zimmerman. The only reason I started paying attention was because I saw so many people dogging Zimmerman when I read this thread.

The correct result of this trial with 2nd degree murder charges isn't close.

Media brainwashing.

CNN did a very clever bit of subliminal neuro-programming today. It was more obvious just watching the video, with no sound. They started with the airline crash in San Francisco. They were talking about victims and survivors, burning plane. So now that your brain is emotionally open, feeling empathy, up pops a picture of a black child and his Dad. Was one of them injured in the crash? Paralyzed? Very sad. Oh no, it's Trayvon Martin as a child! And not long after that, we have very strange pictures of Zimmerman. Zooming up till it's nothing but his eyes filling the screen.

Bernays would be proud. Redirect your empathy, and then give you a target for anger.

Why? Why would people on this forum be more likely to favor GZ over TM. GZ was a nosy neighbor wanna-be cop who liked to get involved in everyone's shit. TM was a teen who was minding his own business (oh and he did drugs).

Usually the people on this forum would be more likely to stick up for a TM type than a GZ type. Why is this case different? Why would you expect people to support GZ?

NAP.

And historical rule of law generally puts the initial aggressor in the wrong.

 

[KingNothing]

Why? Why would people on this forum be more likely to favor GZ over TM. GZ was a nosy neighbor wanna-be cop who liked to get involved in everyone's shit. TM was a teen who was minding his own business (oh and he did drugs).

Usually the people on this forum would be more likely to stick up for a TM type than a GZ type. Why is this case different? Why would you expect people to support GZ?

I imagine there is a large number of people who think GZ will be found not guilty because they are racist.

I'm not one of those people, and I think you know that. The evidence to bring about a conviction just isn't there, and that is something I'd be saying if Zimmerman were black and on his way to the chair, like Cory Maye was.

 

[RickyJ]

This whole trial is a side show to distract from the NSA and IRS scandals. Just because the media talking heads push this trial on their government propaganda broadcasts doesn't mean we have to talk about it.