The Unofficial Feb 7th Results Thread

I'm so disappointed in my home state tonight. Then again it kind of makes sense in a way. Minnesota is a blue collar state and Rick Santorum has been pumped by the media as the "blue collar conservative."
 
Trolls are in full force tonight.

Just facing facts man. I love RP and his message but what we are trying to correct will take a looooong time and tremendous work. It will not happen this go around nor probably in my lifetime.
 
Ultimately it's the defense issue more than any other that kills us with these voters. Many people live with an totally unsubstatiated fear of Iran and terrorists so they give their support to the most jingoistic candidate.

The other stuff Ron basically lets the states decide their policy as it should be and I think a fair number of people get that part of our movement.

I think that for the average Republican male voter in the suburbs, that's absolutely it. But I think it's abortion which prevented Ron from forging a winning alliance between independents, youth, and moderates with Evangelical Christians, which he tried so hard to do in Iowa. And there are quite a number of voters, predominantly females age 40-65 from my limited anecdotal experience, for whom the drugs issue is a deal breaker.
 
I don't understand how, with no entrance/exit polls, they could possibly go from "we don't know much" to "Santorum wins" that fast.
 
The negative nancys that came out of Iowa/Nevada quickly become trolls.

Even some of the most popular forum vets are borderline trolls now.

everyone with a negative comment is a troll? that is immature. we should all fall in line with whatever rhetoric is spun? sorry i believe honesty and being realistic is worth much more than fake praise.
 
From what I've seen, Paul has pretty much swept all the delegates in Minnesota.
 
The Grassroots are STUPID. They spend money on superbrochures. College Students never see those superbrochures. We - the grassroots - are spending our money on stupid stuff that doesn't work.

Take all that money. Throw it at the places where the 18-29 year olds are. Colleges are great for that, but any place where our voters are. Don't bother talking about liberty and all that. They like Ron Paul already. They don't know how to vote. They might think that the next time they vote is in November.

Target: 18-29 men
Message: Here is how you vote

What we have to understand is that we're currently spending nothing on 18-29, and we're spending a lot on "supervoters", and we're doing well with 18-29 and not well with 65+.

The superbrochures are getting to supervoters. Supervoters are never college students. I have no idea how much people spent on those. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands. All that money was not spent on 18-29s but 65+.

Can anyone name specific expenditures that hit 18-29 hard?

People seem to think oh, these 18-29s get hit hard with our money our time our effort. No, they just like Ron Paul.

Someone has to hit them hard with GOTV. And the campaign has its own GOTV, and it just misses our base. Our base isn't getting phone calls. Because our base isn't
regular voters or even supervoters. Young men who've never voted. Those guys aren't on lists. We call a ton of people from a list. That's what phone from home is. But our people aren't on that list. So we can't call them. We don't send them mail. They're invisible to us. Now, when the most active ones reach out to the campaign, we get their data. And then we get called.


Grassroots are like grassrots when so decentralized they do their own things. Hundreds of thousands wasted in crap goods and signs, not to mention the counter productive materials.

In fact sign waves don't get votes, door to door knocking is fast better and the ONLY WAY for us to break down the barriers.

I am to the point of just saying let anarchy reign.
 
States I will never step foot in...Iowa,Minnesota,Missouri...I've always wanted to check out Colorado, but...
 
The youth is our base.... We cater to it right now.... We need to completely pivot like we are going into the general..... Republicans and democrats respect there base in the general but fight for the independents.... We need a strategy that accepts our base and goes after the majority... 100% of 17 percent of the vote won't win us anything. Respect our base..... We're in that funny percentage right before you go mainstream or sink into oblivion... We gonna be Mac computers and niche... Or iPods and become the dominator in the market
 
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