The United Island of America

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I'll do it, but watch for the missle that loses track and hits us ALL...by mistake of course...

 

[skinnyskittles1989]

soooo rothbardian society or minarchist?

 

[Airborn]

Security we can.....:
1) Military
2) Militia
3) Both

4) Put a bunch of d-con out for the neocons

You know they are to try to plant some moles

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Alaska is pretty serious about succession.

 

[nate895]

Yes any state can legally break away from the Union according to state law. Not according to Federal Law. You'd have to have a state legislature willing to break away from the Union, then you'd have to challenge the Union in the Supreme court for breaking contract of the original Union (not following the constitution). The Supreme Court would then have to find in favor of your state in order to successfully secede.

Vermont is the closest state to actually accomplishing this.

No, you need a special convention to rescind ratification of the Constitution, this is called by the legislature and the Governor issues writs of election to elect delegates. The legislature couldn't rescind ratification because it didn't ratify the Constitution, the convention did.

It isn't against Federal Law, and I highly doubt the US would provoke a war, the International community would attack them and possibly even go to war.

 

[ProfNo]

Alaska is pretty serious about succession.

Alaska would be great...remote geographic location, lots of unused space. The goverment could be completely supported off of taxation of oil. The problem is that Alaska would have to agree to this which could take time and may never happen. If Alaska split away, I would move there in a hot second.

On the other hand, the island idea does have some merit in all seriousness. A small society like this can be self-sufficient for the most part, and goverment can be very small. Plus, nobody would probably bug you (if you payed the right people off). This is something that could be achieved right away.

 

[gracebkr]

let's all move to Louisiana, take over the state and secede.

I don't know why Louisiana, but I think this is the right way to go, only I was thinking a Northern state that is unpopulated, like Washington or Montana, maybe a Dakota or two.

 

[gracebkr]

Can we be called the United State of America?

 

[Jodi's mom]

You just said it, if the Island is remote. How many of us want to live on an Island 100's of miles away from anything?

I wonder how many newcomers to America in the 1700s said that? or something similar.

 

[gracebkr]

I wonder how many newcomers to America in the 1700s said that? or something similar.

continent and island are a tad different. I would not want to go to a island. What if it erupts? Tsunami? well, that's not really it, I just would want to be able to drive somewhere. Like go see the fam without having to cruise then fly.

 

[nayjevin]

We should purchase the pie shaped pieces extending out to the ozone layer left over when the square property boundaries on the curved face of the earth are extruded.

 

[Jodi's mom]

Can we be called the United State of America?

LOL!!!

And thanks for posting this:

My friends, they support me - Jack Kemp, and Phil Graham, and Joe Nobodycares - because I was a POW. And a military leader. And that's what this country needs, is leading. And someone has to do it. Jack Kemp and Joe Blow and Jack Kemp, they know this and that's why they, my friends, support me as their leader for leading. My friends. Jack Kemp. -Wedge Talon

ROFLMAO!!! That's about how he sounded, too!! What a blowhard, egotistical maniac!

 

[billyjoeallen]

There is a island group called Palmyra that might be suitable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyra_Atoll

It's already a U.S. territory and privately owned.

 

[DeadWolfe]

I think we should stick with the Free State Project. After all, that's already underway, and the hardest part of this is going to be picking a place and sticking with it.

 

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

People in Texas have been wanted succession for years.

 

[gracebkr]

There is a island group called Palmyra that might be suitable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyra_Atoll

It's already a U.S. territory and privately owned.

What size population can live on that? What could we do for economic gain? Would we just trade with one another and live like colonists? Lets make it a Ron Paul reality show! We can get FOX to fund our new country!

 

[gracebkr]

I think we should stick with the Free State Project. After all, that's already underway, and the hardest part of this is going to be picking a place and sticking with it.

I don't like New Hampshire, surrounded by too much of the old country.

 

[Airborn]

What size population can live on that? What could we do for economic gain? Would we just trade with one another and live like colonists? Lets make it a Ron Paul reality show! We can get FOX to fund our new country!

The atoll has been manned by a group of scientists, Nature Conservancy staff and volunteers, and Fish & Wildlife representatives (totalling between four and 20 in all) for the last several years.

4 to 20 people? I'm sure they wouldn't mind some freedom loving people to join them.

oh, and we should ban fox where ever we go. It goes against our message but maybe one-time thing to exclude fox

If fox tag'd along, I'm finding another Island!

 

[Jodi's mom]

No one. There are some international treaties keeping it that way.....







....actually maybe we could spend that money on lawyers and not weapons and argue that those treaties are illegal and we have the full right to claim Antarctica. If someone can make this crazy idea work, I may just do it, if only for the oil.

Not to be a pessimist, BUT....they probably wouldn't let us have the mineral rights.

 

[billyjoeallen]

What size population can live on that? What could we do for economic gain? Would we just trade with one another and live like colonists? Lets make it a Ron Paul reality show! We can get FOX to fund our new country!

I just found it today on Wikipedia. I don't know any more about it than you can easily find on line. From what I've read, it's the closest thing to Gilligan's Island there is. There's an airstrip. I imagine the economy would be a tax haven/money laundry/ internet gambling type of opportunity with some drug and prostitution tourism thrown in. We could set up the world's first for profit kidney bank maybe.

Another option would be one or several of the artificial islands in Dubai.

Either way, obtaining sovereignty and not just ownership is the real problem.
One way to accomplish that would be to immigrate to an independent island or island group with a democratic government and overwhelm the native votes. Pitcairn island or Tristan Da Cuna or Nauru spring to mind.