The Peace Candidate - Lincoln Chafee

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First off he is a Liberal Rockefeller Republican turned Democrat:
https://twitter.com/LincolnChafee

He isn't a Libertarian, however he is closest to Ron Paul on foreign policy. He supports the blowback theory on terrorism like Ron Paul. He also is polling badly and needs funds and I think he is more deserving than Rand. Rand flirts with keeping the Iran non-issue an issue (like what happened with Iraq that lead to the Iraq war). The NIE released to the public stated that Iran was not pursuing a nuclear weapon. The deal is good considering Iran wasn't pursuing a nuke anyway and it lifts sanctions on the Iranian people. They do not deserve to live under sanctions. Lincoln Chafee at least deserves a look over by Ron Paul supporters. I supported Ron Paul. I do not support his son and find all the other candidates lacking when it comes to war and peace. Trump's only value comes from him pissing off his fellow plutocrats and giving us lessons on how to get political favors (if you can afford it). War is the health of the state and this man is the only one who is being honest concerning foreign policy. War has led to debt, loss of life, and loss of our freedoms. Lincoln Chafee deserves to be paid attention to at least. He deserves to be researched and scrutinized more than most of the politicians running for president in 2016. He also is in much need of support of the pro-peace constituency. The Pauls do not hold a monopoly on arguing for peace and Rand is seriously failing lately on that front.

Lincoln Chafee wants to bring Snowden home and not punish him because the government was wrong:
http://www.thenation.com/article/li...e-2016-debate-lets-bring-edward-snowden-home/

He voted against the Iraq war!
http://www.chafee2016.com/policy/

He unlike Rand is for the deal with Iran concerning its non-existent nuclear weapons program. He supports J-Street and isn't owned by AIPAC. He is against Israel mowing its lawn and wants peace negotiations with Hamas. He is against American foreign policy towards Russia, Syria, etc:
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/presidential-race-2016-candidate-profile-–-lincoln-chafee-d

Iran can have its revenge on us according to Michael Scheuer if we attack it: https://youtu.be/v1ex2HnovN4?t=8m17s

They have capability in North America he says...
 
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Chafee's appeal to us would be as a single issue candidate, at best. The liberty movement wants people who are across the board sound (or in Rand's case, strategizing) for liberty, and who can draw real grassroots support. Chafee draws flies.
 
Chafee's appeal to us would be as a single issue candidate, at best. The liberty movement wants people who are across the board sound (or in Rand's case, strategizing) for liberty, and who can draw real grassroots support. Chafee draws flies.
Ron Paul also started somewhere and was made fun of for not drawing as many as others. War and Peace is a very big issue. Multi-Trillion dollar wars are expensive, loss of civil liberties because war is detrimental to them, loss of life, blow back, the war profiteers control the politicians (just look at Rand's opposition to the deal with Iran and his bill to increase military spending [link below]) in order to maintain the war economy. Ron Paul wanted to cut defense spending in order to balance the budget. This one issue has many faucets beyond the actual war making: civil liberties, the national debt, the war economy and how it warps our political system. That is 4 issues right there.
http://time.com/3759378/rand-paul-defense-spending/
 
Chafee would make an excellent and credible defense sec. Michael Scheur would be better but confirmation would be impossible. Chafee would be easily confirmed.
 
So we're supposed to be one issue voters now. Apparently the liberty movement is only about foreign policy and nothing else. :rolleyes:
 
Sorry, not gonna happen, for the same reasons why no rational person here would support Bernie Sanders. Chafee hates liberty, so by extension he is not our friend. If you are not free economically, you are not free, period. Contrary to what some may say, peace can actually be quite deadly depending on the nature of it.
 
So we're supposed to be one issue voters now. Apparently the liberty movement is only about foreign policy and nothing else. :rolleyes:


Maybe we should consider banning all Lincoln Chafee supporters/threads before they take hold of the forum.
 
Received an F rating from Gun Owners of America and the NRA.

Had a 13% rating with the John Birch Society one Congress and was consistently terrible in their ratings. Whereas Rand is at 94% lifetime and has the highest lifetime score of any Senator ever scored by them.

Chafee hovered around 50% with the Republican Liberty Caucus.

Citizens Against Goverment Waste gave him a 33%. Rand on the other hand got 100%. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ccag...0NThjBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM1BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

And, oh yeah, the Sierra Club gave him 80%. There is an endorsement every Ron Paul supporter will love.

http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/2569/lincoln-chafee#.VdClxPlVhBd


So in conclusion, Rand is a horrible neocon sell out war mongering squish who has embarrassed the great Ron Paul with his horrible terrible no good positions and the right thing to do is support a great liberty candidate like Lincoln Chaffee, who received an actual endorsement from environmentalist wacko, er great liberty group, the Sierra Club. as the next President.
 
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So we're supposed to be one issue voters now. Apparently the liberty movement is only about foreign policy and nothing else. :rolleyes:

Except for the ones who only care about immigration, and will support a candidate who wants to stay in Iraq until the Second Coming.
 
He supports J-Street and isn't owned by AIPAC. He is against Israel mowing its lawn and wants peace negotiations with Hamas. He is against American foreign policy towards Russia, Syria, etc:

I occasionally see that Rand Paul is an AIPAC stooge. After all, he doesn't stand with libertarian peace groups like Hamas. So I was curious to see how much of that AIPAC money Rand must be swimming in. It must be a lot, right? He doesn't support Hamas, so obviously he is a sellout. http://maplight.org/us-congress/interest/J5100/view/all

Those Pro-Israel groups have weird way of showing their affection for a neocon stooge like Rand. They give him the least amount of anyone. And they run million dollar ad buys against him and they run ads of families getting nuked if Rand becomes President.
 
Except for the ones who only care about immigration, and will support a candidate who wants to stay in Iraq until the Second Coming.

Trump is right on the the Federal Reserve's role and Immigration, two of the most pressing issues in the country today. Trump is certainly no savior but he is far from a single issue candidate.
 
Received an F rating from Gun Owners of America and the NRA.

Had a 13% rating with the John Birch Society one Congress and was consistently terrible in their ratings. Whereas Rand is at 94% lifetime and has the highest lifetime score of any Senator ever scored by them.

Chafee hovered around 50% with the Republican Liberty Caucus.

Citizens Against Goverment Waste gave him a 33%. Rand on the other hand got 100%. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ccag...0NThjBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM1BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

And, oh yeah, the Sierra Club gave him 80%. There is an endorsement every Ron Paul supporter will love.

http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/2569/lincoln-chafee#.VdClxPlVhBd


So in conclusion, Rand is a horrible neocon sell out war mongering squish who has embarrassed the great Ron Paul with his horrible terrible no good positions and the right thing to do is support a great liberty candidate like Lincoln Chaffee, who received an actual endorsement from environmentalist wacko, er great liberty group, the Sierra Club. as the next President.
You are right Lincoln Chafee is bad on gun rights. What is going to happen once Iranians that are inside the US since the overthrow of the Shah according to Michael Scheuer strike back from an American strike against Iran? Are we going to have an increase in civil liberties or a decrease? It will be all thanks to the political ambitious votes of people like Rand.

Rand once said about Iran: “even our own intelligence community consensus opinion now is that they’re not a threat. My dad says, they don’t have an air force! They don’t have a navy! You know, it’s ridiculous to think that they’re a threat to our national security. It’s not even that viable to say they’re a threat to Israel. Most people say Israel has 100 nuclear weapons.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/15/rand-2015-runs-from-rand-2007-on-iran.html

Chaffee is also a regular open borders Republican.
 
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