The Official Iowa Caucus Thread

[Brian4Liberty]

I don't think there's anything suspicious about former campaign chairs or staffers developing an election app. They found an opportunity to make something better and brought it to market. The people that work the campaigns are all friendly outside of campaign season. A Clinton and Romney staffer working together isn't suspicious on its own.

Oh yeah I'm not saying the whole thing isn't fucked but let's not pretend this is the first time an app rollout was botched.

I don’t think any campaign chairs or staffers are developing any apps. They would have outsourced it to the best and brightest. Probably went to the Awan family in Pakistan.

 

[RonPaulRocksMyWorld]

It’s called Socialism- the “redistribution” of votes.
Don’t know why the Berners are upset. It’s what they’ve been asking for.
— Dr.Cobb (@DrCobb2) February 4, 2020

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[Brian4Liberty]

if it was better it would have worked.

Oh yeah I'm not saying the whole thing isn't fucked but let's not pretend this is the first time an app rollout was botched.

Did the DNC rig the primaries again?

Still trying to rig it so Bernie doesn't win?

Damn.

That's funny.

A software error is common, and it would be a plausible excuse for this mess. But let’s assume the opposite just for fun. Let’s assume the software worked perfectly. They had three different ways to compare and verify results. After all, there has been so much talk about election interference and the Putin boogeyman, why not really verify results?

And what if this new system of verification, uncovered something “unexpected”? What if it found the numbers weren’t adding up? What if the system found that people were manipulating and changing numbers all through the process? From the vote counters and reporters at lowest levels caucuses, to precincts, to any middlemen involved, to people taking the numbers at HQ. Any of those persons could fudge the data.

What if what really happened was that the new quality verification system simply uncovered the status quo, normal cheating that always occurs? That will not be reported. Ever. Computers don’t lie, unless they are instructed to.

Maybe what we have here is real life proof of the old saying “The people who cast the votes decide nothing; the people who count the votes decide everything”.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Who is behind Buttigieg? Look up Susan Turnbull.

 

[Warlord]

 

[devil21]

Who is behind Buttigieg? Look up Susan Turnbull.

Don't need to. He's a Rhodes Scholar (London trained globalist) that went to Harvard (Rothschild training camp) and is mayor of the city where the largest Catholic university in the country is. The question is what is the end goal of his candidacy? No city mayor runs for President unless there's a very specific goal he is meant to accomplish on behalf of his benefactors. The question is what is that goal.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Seth Klarman, another big Buttigieg supporter.

Pro-Israel Buttigieg backer Seth Klarman is top funder of group behind Iowa’s disastrous voting app

At the time of publication, twelve hours after voting in the Democratic Party’s Iowa caucuses ended, the results have not been announced. The delay in reporting is the result of a failed app developed by a company appropriately named Shadow Inc.

This firm was staffed by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama campaign veterans and created by a Democratic dark money nonprofit backed by hedge fund billionaires including Seth Klarman. A prolific funder of pro-settler Israel lobby organizations, Klarman has also contributed directly to Pete Buttigieg’s campaign.
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An Israel lobby moneyman’s path to Mayor Pete’s wine cave

Shadow Inc. was launched by a major Democratic dark money nonprofit called Acronym, which also gave birth to a $7.7 million Super PAC known as Pacronym.

According to Sludge, Pacronym’s largest donor is Seth Klarman. A billionaire hedge funder, Klarman also happens to be a top donor to Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar.

Though he has attracted some attention for his role in the campaign, Klarman’s prolific funding of the pro-settler Israel lobby and Islamophobic initiatives has gone almost entirely unmentioned.

Seth Klarman is the founder of the Boston-based Baupost Group hedge fund and a longtime donor to corporate Republican candidates. After Donald Trump called for forgiving Puerto Rico’s debt, Klarman – the owner of $911 million of the island’s bonds – flipped and began funding Trump’s opponents.

The billionaire’s crusade against Trump ultimately led him to Mayor Pete’s wine cave.

By the end of 2019, Klarman had donated $5600 to Buttigieg and pumped money into the campaigns of Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris as well.
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More: https://thegrayzone.com/2020/02/04/pro-israel-buttigieg-seth-klarman-iowas-voting-app/

 

[Zippyjuan]

Even Iowans aren't that thrilled about the process of a caucus. First, the process limits those who can participate- you need to be able to spend several hours at the precinct. That gets rid of families who need to be home to take care of kids and people with jobs or those who can't easily get around. You don't just drop off or fill in a ballot and leave- going back to your real life.

Then there is the process. You meet in a room. The doors are closed- nobody allowed in or out until it is over. You count everybody in the room to have a total. Then there are tables (or something) for each candidate. You go and stand by the table for the candidate you like. Everybody gets counted again according to where they are. There is a cut-off. Any table with less than 15% of the people is considered "unviable". That table (or those tables) are taken away and the next round of "musical chairs" commences. Everybody gets to find another table. You can stay at the same table (unless you were at one of the removed ones) if you want. Continues round after round until a "victor" is declared. The winner is the one who can convince the most neighbors to join them at their table.

For the first time, Iowa was going to announce the first round "votes"- where everybody started at. They had not done that before. They will also announce the final totals. But even this voting is not binding- the actual decision of who the delegates will vote for will be decided at the party convention. That will not necessarily be the same outcome as who won what at the caucus. Very confusing. Which is why some are questioning why the state is first and is given such emphasis.

 

[Matt Collins]

Who is behind Buttigieg?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

A software error is common, and it would be a plausible excuse for this mess. But let’s assume the opposite just for fun. Let’s assume the software worked perfectly. They had three different ways to compare and verify results. After all, there has been so much talk about election interference and the Putin boogeyman, why not really verify results?

And what if this new system of verification, uncovered something “unexpected”? What if it found the numbers weren’t adding up? What if the system found that people were manipulating and changing numbers all through the process? From the vote counters and reporters at lowest levels caucuses, to precincts, to any middlemen involved, to people taking the numbers at HQ. Any of those persons could fudge the data.

What if what really happened was that the new quality verification system simply uncovered the status quo, normal cheating that always occurs? That will not be reported. Ever. Computers don’t lie, unless they are instructed to.

Maybe what we have here is real life proof of the old saying “The people who cast the votes decide nothing; the people who count the votes decide everything”.

The length of time they are taking indicates that they are collecting all of the individual paper ballots and counting them from scratch, disregarding any other counts. Now a thorough analysis of the data streams where discrepancies were found might be very enlightening. You might even be able to find the individuals in the process who were changing vote counts.

But even if you found them, there is no doubt it would be blamed on a simple transcription error by some little old lady. And a little old lady would never, ever intentionally cheat...

 

[Anti Federalist]

why does iowa need refugees from burma ? I think by 2018 there were 2k or more from Myanmar .

Because the powers that be have determined there are too many white people there.

Have to start displacing them.

 

[Anti Federalist]

So who fucking won???

The system.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Now saying they hope to have "partial" results by 5:00 local time today.

 

[oyarde]

Now saying they hope to have "partial" results by 5:00 local time today.

And we know anything less than comrade sanders victory is false

 

[Anti Globalist]

This pretty much encompasses whats going on in Iowa right now.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Iowa's Muslims turn out for Bernie

 

[Zippyjuan]

Iowa's Muslims turn out for Bernie

OOh! One percent of the population ! Massive voting bloc! How did the Mormons vote?

 

[juleswin]

Iowa's Muslims turn out for Bernie

All <1% of the population that is Muslim is what we should be worried about. Jews also heavily vote democrat but we all know Breitbart won't be saying anything about that

 

[timosman]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1224730863570571264

 

[devil21]

This pretty much encompasses whats going on in Iowa right now.

But is it really? I can't help but wonder if the same playbook that installed Trump is being used to propel Bernie. Lots of false opposition turned Trump from something of a joke candidate into the frontrunner and eventually the Presidency....and even continues to this day while he supports globalist initiatives like USMCA. Perhaps a similar playbook is being run to galvanize support behind Bernie, under a "the establishment hates him and are trying to screw him again" narrative. Trump's ascension proved that in an anti-establishment climate, the best way to install a pre-selected candidate is to fake opposition by the establishment.