The Minimum wage belongs at $14 per hour.

[PRB]

$14/hour isn't enough for a single mother with 6 kids. If you're a single mother with 6 kids, the minimum wage should be at least $40/hour.

And it should be illegal for them to lie to employers about how many kids they have, to get a job with the lower $14/hour wage. They deserve $40, they should get $40.

what about 6 dogs or a 6 pack a day diet?

 

[euphemia]

So you think a woman who has not worked, but slept around enough to have six children should be able to demand a higher salary? It seems very unfair. What do you say to the man or woman who has done nothing but work hard in school and on the job? Shouldn't they be able to support themselves and choose whether or not to support someone else's children?

 

[LibertyRevolution]

Maybe we should get rid of minimum wage so that companies can pay employees $1 an hour and then everyone can collect welfare?

Maybe walmart could even pay them in store credit so that they have to shop at the company store...

 

[Danke]

Maybe we should get rid of minimum wage so that companies can pay employees $1 an hour and then everyone can collect welfare?

Maybe walmart could even pay them in store credit so that they have to shop at the company store...

Join date November 2007. You have got to be s****ing me.

 

[Zippyjuan]

But we want more high paying jobs, right? Or do we want more even lower paying jobs? How many here are volunteering to have their wages reduced because they are paid too much? Or is it "everybody but me is paid too much"?

 

[Danke]

But we want more high paying jobs, right? Or do we want more even lower paying jobs? How many here are volunteering to have their wages reduced because they are paid too much? Or is it "everybody but me is paid too much"?

Yes yes higher-paying jobs minimum wage should be $1000 per hour.

 

[PRB]

But we want more high paying jobs, right?

Nope.

Or do we want more even lower paying jobs?

Yes.

How many here are volunteering to have their wages reduced because they are paid too much? Or is it "everybody but me is paid too much"?

I wouldn't volunteer, but if the market says I am overpaid, I am overpaid. I don't deserve more than my replacement/competition.

 

[TheTexan]

Maybe we should get rid of minimum wage so that companies can pay employees $1 an hour and then everyone can collect welfare?

Maybe walmart could even pay them in store credit so that they have to shop at the company store...

What would really solve this problem is an unconditional Basic Income. A livable wage for all, regardless of if you're working or not.

I'm sure if we both write to Bernie we can get him on board.

 

[DamianTV]

It should be $27.39.

Sounds about right.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...t-reveal-the-true-state-of-the-union-20140128

What the minimum wage would be if it had kept pace with gains in worker productivity since 1968: $21.72

I dont agree with Minimum Wage itself because of the Law of Unintended Consequences. Your figure however sounds way more accurate. If Minimum Wage had kept up with inflation and cost of living, it would be much closer to roughly $25 bucks an hour right now, and will go ever skyward. Its sad that the $14 or $15 per hour is being demanded as a "barely livable wage". The people that live on that little money are also not high school students, many are people that are forced into slave like working conditions because there are still no other good paying jobs. One argument that I heard is that "jobs cant be shipped overseas because you cant put a job into a shipping container". I wont mention the author since the purpose is to solve problems, not to stroke my ego or continue disagreements. My rebuttle was that the jobs are not coming back. Truth is most likely somewhere in the middle. If we lose 10 jobs, only about 9 or so come back in other forms. But it also doesnt address the quality of the job itself. The one job that doesnt come back is either "shipped overseas" to "cheaper labor", or simply doesnt come back so that the rich can afford twelve new super yachts. So this appears to be Obama's idea of a recovery. Eliminate one $40 dollar an hour job and create 3 part time $7.25 minimum wage jobs. By those figures, the economy "got better" by replacing one good job with three absolute garbage jobs and that doesnt even add up, money continues to flow from the bottom to the top.

If we want to truly fix this problem with employment and minimum wage, we need to find the root of the problem. Small businesses, the backbone of the American Economy, also suffer from inflation. So we need to look beyond the employers as being at fault and see why they are reacting the way they are. And as usual, its the Central Banks and government interference that has caused more problems than it has resolved. They only offer band-aid fixes and no real solutions. The real solution is an Honest Money System that allows the common man to negotiate what he will work for with as little government interference as possible. But we have gone so far down the path of destruction that by now, the problems we have may be completely irreversible.

 

[CaptUSA]

But we want more high paying jobs, right? Or do we want more even lower paying jobs? How many here are volunteering to have their wages reduced because they are paid too much? Or is it "everybody but me is paid too much"?

Or... That transaction can happen between the employer and the employee without interference. I'm sure they could decide what the other's offering is worth to them.

 

[danda]

Let's just be done with it and make it 1 million per hour. Just think, we'll all be billionaires!

 

[Danke]

Let's just be done with it and make it 1 million per hour. Just think, we'll all be billionaires!

Yes we can !

 

[TheTexan]

Let's just be done with it and make it 1 million per hour. Just think, we'll all be billionaires!

We could also take turns being rich.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I was once on this commie forum where they were very seriously discussing a maximum wage. I didn't get to participate in the discussion because they banned my IP in two days.

Seems like a consistent position. If you are going to have a minimum wage, there should also be a maximum wage. Or have neither.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

The minimum wage belongs at $14 per hour

the shame, when libertarians agree with liberals. you're right, libertarians should...embrace automation induced unemployment.

Damn labor saving devices...

...who needs productivity anyway?

I want to work longer for less money!

 

[euphemia]

But we want more high paying jobs, right? Or do we want more even lower paying jobs? How many here are volunteering to have their wages reduced because they are paid too much? Or is it "everybody but me is paid too much"?

I'm not volunteering for a lower paying job. I have been in my current position for over 10 years and have received awards for my level of service. I would love to think I deserve more money than a tax tick who has never had a job.

 

[tod evans]

I can agree with wage caps on government employees.

No government employee should ever make more than the average income in the county they work in.

And no government employee should ever make more than the national median income.

Private sector should have no regulation at all, minimum or maximum......

 

[oyarde]

I can agree with wage caps on government employees.

No government employee should ever make more than the average income in the county they work in.

And no government employee should ever make more than the national median income.

Private sector should have no regulation at all, minimum or maximum......

Sounds about right to me .

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Putting My "Progressive" hat on...

Really the minimum wage should facilitate a minimum acceptable standard of living. If 18 year old single male Bob, get's a job, surely we can agree that the minimum wage to provide him with the essentials in life is less than Molly the town slut, that has 6 kids by 4 different men. So, Bob, being a male and young and single can easily get by living with several male friends, in a not so great section of town. Bob, doesn't have to worry about getting raped, bob is a male and bigger so it's okay for him to live in a more "affordable" area, plus bob has less expenses, he doesn't have to buy tampons! Bob can be alright on 9/hr in most areas. Molly, in order to live at the same standard of safety for her and her kids will need on site security, and live in an area with low crime rates overall. Being a Mother, molly needs to be in top form, so will require the best healtchare, we wouldn't Molly to get ill, who would take care of those precious children! So, Molly will require 80/hr, just to live at the same standard as Bob!

This is fair, both Bob and Molly are actually working for the same quality of life.

This is the future, equality at last.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I can agree with wage caps on government employees.

No government employee should ever make more than the average income in the county they work in.

And no government employee should ever make more than the national median income.

Private sector should have no regulation at all, minimum or maximum......

You don't agree with cops and firefighters who make $200k/year and then get that same pay in retirement (wth annual COLA) at 55?