The MIAC report ten years later, and the utter failure of the "liberty movement"...

Gumba of Liberty said:
I agree with you. I never said that providing the people a principled lightning rod (like Dr. Ron Paul) would ever hurt. I just want everyone to be aware that if you are looking for the next Ron Paul (and you are not running for office yourself) you will be waiting an extremely long time. How many years between the lives of Thomas Jefferson and Ron Paul? Too many.

With that said, the Liberty Movement should have all options on the table. My problem with this thread, and the movement in general, is that people are getting discouraged because they haven't found another (more articulate i.e. better) Ron Paul and that the movement is therefore doomed (btw I am of my opinion that a younger, more articulate Ron Paul would have been assassinated quickly. The fact that he was the old, non-threatening, folksie granddad kept him alive). This general demoralization of the movement is not proactive nor productive. Finding a populist champion of liberty, on the national level, is not going to happen overnight and we shouldn't get upset about it because their is much other work to do. We must struggle and fight, at the state & local level, if we wish to build the movement strong enough to support a true rebel on the national stage.

So how about this: We support each other and stay positive! How have you supported your liberty and the liberty of your family, today? Start small (as Jordan Peterson would say, "Clean your room!"). You will be surprised at how much impact you can make by just being the best (up-beat) version of yourself and being an uncompromising (yet fun-loving) champion of liberty, on a daily basis. We must try to get liberty lovers on the national stage but we have some much more potential, as a movement, than that because even if we fail in one election - we must have the collective resolve that we will continue to grid, toil, and fight for our Natural-Born Rights. If we allow negativity to destroy our resolve, I can guarantee we will lose.

I would look to the Spartans for inspiration on this: When our enemies block out the sun, we must fight in the shade. And smile when we do it.
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And where are the Spartans now?

You dismiss my negativity as giving up.

No, but I will give up on what demonstrably does not work.

It's long past time to change tactics.
 
Gumba of Liberty said:
I agree with you. I never said that providing the people a principled lightning rod (like Dr. Ron Paul) would ever hurt. I just want everyone to be aware that if you are looking for the next Ron Paul (and you are not running for office yourself) you will be waiting an extremely long time. How many years between the lives of Thomas Jefferson and Ron Paul? Too many.

With that said, the Liberty Movement should have all options on the table. My problem with this thread, and the movement in general, is that people are getting discouraged because they haven't found another (more articulate i.e. better) Ron Paul and that the movement is therefore doomed (btw I am of my opinion that a younger, more articulate Ron Paul would have been assassinated quickly. The fact that he was the old, non-threatening, folksie granddad kept him alive). This general demoralization of the movement is not proactive nor productive. Finding a populist champion of liberty, on the national level, is not going to happen overnight and we shouldn't get upset about it because their is much other work to do. We must struggle and fight, at the state & local level, if we wish to build the movement strong enough to support a true rebel on the national stage.

So how about this: We support each other and stay positive! How have you supported your liberty and the liberty of your family, today? Start small (as Jordan Peterson would say, "Clean your room!"). You will be surprised at how much impact you can make by just being the best (up-beat) version of yourself and being an uncompromising (yet fun-loving) champion of liberty, on a daily basis. We must try to get liberty lovers on the national stage but we have some much more potential, as a movement, than that because even if we fail in one election - we must have the collective resolve that we will continue to grid, toil, and fight for our Natural-Born Rights. If we allow negativity to destroy our resolve, I can guarantee we will lose.

I would look to the Spartans for inspiration on this: When our enemies block out the sun, we must fight in the shade. And smile when we do it.
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+REP

You can not give reputation to the same post twice.
 
Swordsmyth said:
Most libertarians drive them away because they are religiously opposed to having leaders.
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Morally and Rationally opposed.. and I'm irreligious.

I could tolerate elected representatives though.. (likely how the Founders were tricked)
 
I remember like a cookie baker.

I remember that a Secret Police Document revealed the existence of a previously unknown agency.

I remember " Domestic Terrorist " being added to my resume.

I remember this Forums Response.

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Anti Globalist said:
If only we had more leaders in the liberty movement with alpha male personalities. Our chances of winning would greatly increase.
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The only people we would trust with, and deserve power is the people that do NOT want it, which sadly is most of us.

I still think the best thing we can do with the status quo is to flat out turn our backs on them. That includes cops refusing to enforce stupid laws, teachers who refuse to obey cirriculums, and leaders who refuse to fire their own subordinates for not causing more problems. We out them, make their moral gymnastics well known to all, then flat out bypass the rotted chains of command.
 
I love acronyms;

I was afraid to ask; '' google is your friend'' :frog:

So I googled;


A great place to ski


An Art college


'The' Presidents task for some blsht (but just a bunch of pdf's)


Cool Software


A great company to work for


A counter top'
 
Swordsmyth said:
That's not nearly as degenerate as stripping in public.
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That's what I mean. How many women would he need to pay for sex to be an alpha? Is it more or less than the number of whores required to win the evangelical vote?
 
TheCount said:
That's what I mean. How many women would he need to pay for sex to be an alpha? Is it more or less than the number of whores required to win the evangelical vote?
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That question is too stupid to even deserve a stupid answer.

Trump is not a paragon of virtue but he is an alpha, you don't have to be a paragon of virtue to be an alpha.
Stripper guy is not an alpha, he is just a degenerate.
 
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