The Endless Drought Of 2012 Will Bake America Well Into August

[Kelly.]

You are not sick from BT corn (which is presumabley the GMO you're talking about)

how can you make this statement when you have no idea which corn she/he was eating?
with over 80% of the corn grown in america being GMO, there is a HIGH likelihood that is the corn she/he was eating.

because of the extra time and money, coupled with decreased yield, you are likely to know by the price if you are buying natural corn. (hint: its not cheap, and not nearly as common)
if it doesnt say it is natural/organic, it is likely GMO. as in america that is considered "conventional" farming.

 

[Kelly.]

No its not. Humans were looking for a "cure" to a human introduced condition of the European Corn Boar that was destorying corn crops in the late 90s early 00s. They knew that bacillus thuringiensis showed resitance to corn boar. They could just as easily put their energy into finding resitant hybred.

the cure is to stop planting mono crops in the same plots year after year, but no farmer wants to hear that.

again, BT corn was not created by plant breeding.
it was created by adding genes from one organism (BT bacteria) to another unlike organism (corn).
if you know of the company that naturally bred BT and corn, id sure love to invest in them.

 

[ZENemy]

Just in time for all of that "State of emergency" talk in all of ObombO's latest EO's.

 

[jbauer]

the cure is to stop planting mono crops in the same plots year after year, but no farmer wants to hear that.

again, BT corn was not created by plant breeding.
it was created by adding genes from one organism (BT bacteria) to another unlike organism (corn).
if you know of the company that naturally bred BT and corn, id sure love to invest in them.

Plant rotation is significanlty under used these days. But most still do rotate corn/soybeans. Atleast the ones that I know. We'll have to agree to disagree on the merits or lack there of, of BT corn.

 

[CaseyJones]

One in every crowd.

think you will find more than one here

 

[Kelly.]

Plant rotation is significanlty under used these days. But most still do rotate corn/soybeans. Atleast the ones that I know. We'll have to agree to disagree on the merits or lack there of, of BT corn.

rotating GM corn to CM soy to GM canola to GM wheat isnt what i would call crop rotation (assuming you are referencing the midwest)
the soil in the midwest is dead or dieing from all of the chemicals that have been sprayed on them.... soon crops will only grow with artificial fertilizers.

in the event you find a company that is creating transgenetic organisms in a natural way, i sure would love to hear about them. until then, these are science experiments with the general population as test subjects, imo.

 

[kahless]

This is such a misinformed dilusional comment. There is no way to test for GMO crops short of DNA testing every single kernal of corn. Corn cross polinates even if its planted in a non GMO field the pollen from other fields can float for miles. Thus, an ear of corn can literly have GMO and non GMO kernals on each ear of corn regardless of where or how its planted. (of course short of growing it in a buble)

You are not sick from BT corn (which is presumabley the GMO you're talking about)

Fuck you delusional. Two products with the exact same ingredients except one lists corn as the main ingredient while the other lists "Genetically Modified Corn". I have tested this many times over and it is consistent, the one with GM corn causes my thoat to go into spasm.

I never gave a dam whether something was GM corn or non-GM corn until that extreme discomfort started happening around the same time GM corn shit started hitting the store shelves in the 90s.

 

[jbauer]

What part of cross polinated don't you get? You literly can have GMO and non GMO corn on the same ear of corn. Regardless of what was planted where. Do you think they test each individual kernal prior to labeling it?

 

[jbauer]

Kahless are you in Europe? I am unaware of any lableing of GMO vs non GMO in America. (Edit, since its un-testable)

 

[CaseyJones]

Organic produce has a 5 digit PLU number that begins with the number 9.
Conventional produce has a 4 digit PLU number that begins with the number 4.
Genetically modified (GMO) produce has a 5 digit PLU number that begins with the number 8.

 

[jbauer]

Organic produce has a 5 digit PLU number that begins with the number 9.
Conventional produce has a 4 digit PLU number that begins with the number 4.
Genetically modified (GMO) produce has a 5 digit PLU number that begins with the number 8.

This may be the case with some produce if reported on a voluntary basis. It is not the case with corn since it is not tested. Also since we're talking about BT corn, as an organic grower one is allowed to apply BT to the corn/soil.

Organic is one of the biggest marketing myths ever created. Give them credit they've done a great job getting folks to pay 2x, 3x for the same thing.

 

[kahless]

Kahless are you in Europe? I am unaware of any lableing of GMO vs non GMO in America. (Edit, since its un-testable)

I am in the US and unless something has changed the products clearly state in the ingredients either "Corn", "Genetically Modified Corn" or "GM Corn".

When I see the last two I just pick another product but come to think I do not see it that often these days as I did when this started in the early 90s. The first incident of this where the problem started and I started checking labels was with Honeycomb cereal where it was specifically labeled "Genetically Modified Corn" at the time.

Maybe they stopped requiring that label since then, I don't know since most things I buy are fresh non GM.

 

[libertyjam]

No its not. Humans were looking for a "cure" to a human introduced condition of the European Corn Boar that was destorying corn crops in the late 90s early 00s. They knew that bacillus thuringiensis showed resitance to corn boar. They could just as easily put their energy into finding resitant hybred.

It's corn BORER!

 

[Ireland4Liberty]

lads, here in Ireland we are having one of the wettest summers on record. It is aweful for farming here.

 

[Kelly.]

Organic is one of the biggest marketing myths ever created. Give them credit they've done a great job getting folks to pay 2x, 3x for the same thing.

its only my opinion, but i think you have it backwards. organic isnt expensive, subsidized industrial "food" inputs make some food like products appear cheaper.

i cant believe people can be fooled into eating food like products, based on price alone.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

its only my opinion, but i think you have it backwards. organic isnt expensive, subsidized industrial "food" inputs make some food like products appear cheaper.

i cant believe people can be fooled into eating food like products, based on price alone.

This^^ I buy organic at Trader Joe's for as much or less than non-organic.

 

[jbauer]

To be honest, between our families we grow almost all of our own food.

Milk, Fruit, Veggies, beef, pork, chicken, goat. The only thing we don't grow is lettuce in the winter and bread/grain type products.

Organic food is a fraud. Most organic grain is shipped in the night before its shipped out. Some of the organic remedies are as harmful or more than their traditional counterparts. I believe in organic methods if it is successful and non threatening. I have a problem when people put all their trust into something that is 99% marketing.

Eat it if it makes you happy but you'd serve yourself better to go to the local farmers market and buy it there then you would be to buy it at any grocery store. I would bet that nearly every single real farmer there would happily let you go to their place and inspect it if you’d like.

its only my opinion, but i think you have it backwards. organic isnt expensive, subsidized industrial "food" inputs make some food like products appear cheaper.

i cant believe people can be fooled into eating food like products, based on price alone.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

its only my opinion, but i think you have it backwards. organic isnt expensive, subsidized industrial "food" inputs make some food like products appear cheaper.

i cant believe people can be fooled into eating food like products, based on price alone.

Food like products. I shall call them that from now on.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Food like products. I shall call them that from now on.

Yeah you shouldn't eat those things, but there's lots of other nice names you can think of.
I like using the word substrate, as it has this test-tube-sound to it.

Something like; 'Food resembling growth substrate'.

But concerning this drought. You can have some of our rain ?
It has been raining non-stop in Europe. It should have been summer by now, but apart from a couple nice days in spring, we have only had grey clouds and lots of rain.
So please take some of our rain, we wouldn't miss it.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

It's as dry here as I have ever seen it. We had a few spotty showers Saturday across the state, not enoough and most didn't see a drop of rain. Forecast is for upper 90's all week, few chances of rain. Father-in-law farms near Sioux City, a little better there but still bad.

Our yard has never been so brown, mowed once in the past seven weeks.

Rained for over a week here. Yesterday was the first time we've had any sun