The Endless Drought Of 2012 Will Bake America Well Into August

Ireland4Liberty said:
lads, here in Ireland we are having one of the wettest summers on record. It is aweful for farming here.
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Yah, I hate that, had that happen to my gardens a few years back, rain and seed rot, nothing grew.

Pretty common weather pattern in the northern hemisphere.

If the US is hot and dry, look for Europe to be cool and wet, and vice versa.
 
jbauer said:
To be honest, between our families we grow almost all of our own food.

Milk, Fruit, Veggies, beef, pork, chicken, goat. The only thing we don't grow is lettuce in the winter and bread/grain type products.

Organic food is a fraud. Most organic grain is shipped in the night before its shipped out. Some of the organic remedies are as harmful or more than their traditional counterparts. I believe in organic methods if it is successful and non threatening. I have a problem when people put all their trust into something that is 99% marketing.

Eat it if it makes you happy but you'd serve yourself better to go to the local farmers market and buy it there then you would be to buy it at any grocery store. I would bet that nearly every single real farmer there would happily let you go to their place and inspect it if you’d like.
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You're still confusing organic against GMO. Organic may be no better than traditional (non-lab produced) growing methods involving chemical nutrients (not organic) but organic methods with hierloom genes are not more harmful than GMO. You're suddenly talking about supplement claims and trying to prove your cred on this thread with a crap post. You gotta step your intellectual game up if you're going to debate on RPF.
 
I'm not confusing organic vs GMO at all. In fact I'd say I'm probably one of the few on here that has actually grown both ways. I'd take GMO 100x to next sunday over some of the "natural chemicals" used on organic food. Just because my opinion differs from yours doesn't mean I need to step up my intellectual game.
 
Mother Earth is a living being..... as our Corn Crops have been poisoned with GMO, and other things she has to find a way to remove the cancer....... dry up the American Fields where the poisoning is occurring.
 
You can dry out the field all you want. All that is going to do is create a highly drought resistant form of GMO crops through more breeding. GMO isn't going anywhere, the demand for cheap food far exceeds the desire for non-gmo food. If you want to change the world, learn to grow your own or buy locally from someone you know.
 
jbauer said:
You can dry out the field all you want. All that is going to do is create a highly drought resistant form of GMO crops through more breeding. GMO isn't going anywhere, the demand for cheap food far exceeds the desire for non-gmo food. If you want to change the world, learn to grow your own or buy locally from someone you know.
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i would say the demand for cheap food outweighs the desire for HEALTHY food, but only because most people do not understand what they are putting into their bodies when they eat "cheap".

i agree with jbauer, grow your own, seek out local meats, be as self sufficient as possible.

jbauer- do you agree that most of the corn grown in the US CANNOT be eaten directly off the cob (as with say sweet corn), and must be processed before its put into food stuffs?
 
Kelly. said:
jbauer- do you agree that most of the corn grown in the US CANNOT be eaten directly off the cob (as with say sweet corn), and must be processed before its put into food stuffs?
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The outside portion of the kernel is for all intensive purposes indigestible. The inside portion (the bulk of the kernel) that is starch is easily digestible. The same can be said for most "grass like" grains. (soybeans don't fall here) Corn gets the indigestible label because (this is gross) people look at their #2 in the potty and see what looks like full kernels in their #2 when in fact its the outside layer filled with other parts of their #2.

People get up in arms about corn because processors use corn in all sorts (if not all) of food. They use it because the corn plant is probably the most productive plant on the planet. It falls in the C4 (highest) category because of its efficiency of the photosynthesis process. Being bountiful and thus cheap makes it a perfect candidate for use in sugar, binders, starches etc etc.

So yes you need to at a minimum crack corn for it to be digestible by most animals including humans. Taste-wise there are probably better options for starch in your diet then “Dent” corn which is what you primarily see in the fields today.

As far as cheap vs healthy? I'm not sure anyone even cares to know whats in their food. I don't think you can label corn as the sole culprit here. Our bodies weren't intended to sit behind a computer and/or push paper all day. Obesity comes from excess calories in vs out simple as that. You could get those calories from anything out there. Calories eaten > Calories expended = Fat.
 
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one word.............irrigation. Why do these massive agro-biz farms rely on ...rain?
 
jbauer said:
I'm not confusing organic vs GMO at all. In fact I'd say I'm probably one of the few on here that has actually grown both ways. I'd take GMO 100x to next sunday over some of the "natural chemicals" used on organic food. Just because my opinion differs from yours doesn't mean I need to step up my intellectual game.
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How do you grow something GMO? GMO refers to the genetic make up of the actual plant. Genetically Modified Organism. Organic refers to the growing method for producing the plant. You could even grow a GMO organically if you desired. That's what I meant that you're confusing the two terms. It's not your differing opinion that is the problem. You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about. That's the problem.
 
A crop that has been genetically modified is considered a GMO crop. BT corn, Roundup Ready Soybeans. Those are GMO-Crops. I'm not confusing anything with anything even though you seem to think that. Technically you couldn't grow a GMO crop organically because the genetic traits described would automatically knock them out of the "certified organic world". You could however, grow them without additional pesticides, herbicides, insecticides and commercial fertilizer on land that was (can't remember the real number) 7 years removed from use of such things.

devil21 said:
How do you grow something GMO? GMO refers to the genetic make up of the actual plant. Genetically Modified Organism. Organic refers to the growing method for producing the plant. You could even grow a GMO organically if you desired. That's what I meant that you're confusing the two terms. It's not your differing opinion that is the problem. You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about. That's the problem.
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Another word: Money

Its very costly to put in center pivot irrigation systems in. Not to mention all the eco people that would go nuts over farmers tapping the aquifers to water there “poisonous” corn.


JK/SEA said:
one word.............irrigation. Why do these massive agro-biz farms rely on ...rain?
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There is food grown there, but the bread basket of the world is in IL, IN, OH, KS, IA, MS etc. We've got real serious issues going into this winter with food prices

GunnyFreedom said:
Pretty sure we grow food in NC, SC, Georgia, and Alabama.
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