The Des Moines Plan

[John of Des Moines]

To Noodles

And for the smartass with the food comment, I sent another $100 to the campaign this morning.

How is pointing out the food is meant AS A HOOK for the hungry Forum goers a "smartass" comment? I was speaking of the campaign's desire to get IOWAN straw poll and caucus goers interested in Ron Paul. Do you have an objection with that? If you're po'd you're not getting a free meal sign up for food stamps. If you were planning to come pre-announcement is the fact the campaign to woo with Iowa voters food instead of you is what's eating your goat? What is your malfunction?

 

[John of Des Moines]

Travel Point Person

Meg Davis of the KC group is the travel point person.

Meg Davis <[email protected]>

 

[RJB]

I got a set of bib overalls, or is that a Missouri midwestern thing?

 

[Bradley in DC]

I was reading Ayn Rand when he was in diapers probably. Keep attacking anybody who disagrees with anything, and you'll end up with what you've got. Same as it ever was..

I thought that was the Talking Heads.

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Noodles and Zydeco, what have you done to get Ron Paul elected today? Yesterday? This last week? And I don't want to hear about your contribution again. I'm not telling how much I've given as I'm not looking for kudos. We should be thanking John for actually doing some work. But you guys are complaining that you're not getting a free lunch from the campaign. What does that tell us?

 

[Zydeco]

Delegation of Authority

John of Des Moines,

If you're in over your head with responsibility, and you are, then let someone at Paul HQ know. Authority can be delegated upward, not just downward.

I'm sure you're an enthusiastic supporter of RP like I am and I don't mean to be a prick. We need to work together. But the stunt you pulled last night was not acceptable, and your non-apology was obnoxious, and communications responsibilities do not play to your strengths. So punt if you have to, and I'll cool my ass down, and we'll all move forward.

 

[Bryan in Iowa]

Can you read???

I SAID COME TO MS AND BE TREATED WITH HOSPITALITY. That includes food.

Noodles...if you show up, I will personally buy you an Iowa steak dinner...that's corn fed beef...the best in the world. If you'd rather have pork, we have the famous Iowa Chop too! We are hospitable here in Iowa...we are known for it. The Ron Paul campaign can not afford to feed 1000 rally goers, but please do not allow it to reflect on the good-nature of Iowa folk. This 'event' is to sway Iowans who have been misguided by the other candidates, and by the Iowans for Tax Relief. It is to attract potential voters in the Iowa Straw Poll for Ron Paul. When Dr. Paul wins the straw poll, which is a good possibility, the national media will have no choice but to realize he is a viable, credible candidate for the presidency of the United States.

I am a native Iowan, John is from Chicago I think I am a high school teacher, John went to law school...that might explain a few things too My sincere apologies in advance dear John...you're doing a wonderful job bringing all of this together!

 

[ButchHowdy]

Noodles and Zydeco, what have you done to get Ron Paul elected today? Yesterday? This last week? And I don't want to hear about your contribution again. I'm not telling how much I've given as I'm not looking for kudos. We should be thanking John for actually doing some work. But you guys are complaining that you're not getting a free lunch from the campaign. What does that tell us?

AMEN! Thank you for all you're doing John!

 

[angelatc]

http://media.eventbooking.com/34982_ed.jpg - here's a map:

 

[Bradley in DC]

Finally, thanks for the vote of Confidence.

John, you know we <looking at the sky, rolling eyes, shuffling feet, acting all innocent> were joking about the tar and feathers, right?

That said, the many hours waiting and unnecessary comments (word play, bigger than Tancredo endorsement, etc.) probably aggravated more than helped. Obviously, that was never your intention, and yes we're all very happy there are dedicated volunteers in Des Moines for Dr. Paul.

 

[LibertyEagle]

You're a good man, Bryan. Thanks.

 

[LibertyEagle]

angelatc,

Thanks for posting that layout. This is going to be GREAT!!

 

[John of Des Moines]

John, you know we <looking at the sky, rolling eyes, shuffling feet, acting all innocent> were joking about the tar and feathers, right?

That said, the many hours waiting and unnecessary comments (word play, bigger than Tancredo endorsement, etc.) probably aggravated more than helped. Obviously, that was never your intention, and yes we're all very happy there are dedicated volunteers in Des Moines for Dr. Paul.

Oh, the tar and feathers were on the other thread. I know the campaign not releasing the info was getting under people's skin. My comment was directed to whoever I was replying to, and not the the all the great people on here.

 

[fedup100]

Thank you John for your hard work, excitement and for thinking outside the box.

This campaign must think out side the box and fight till they are "shitty as a bull" in order to overcome the nasty bastards that are in control of SELECTING our choices for President.

Maybe some of you, and I am including myself, do not realize how easy it is to offend someone with an email. I don't understand it either, but it truly does happen.

All of you that have been upset over this must stop it now and come together. THIS IS WHAT FAILOR AN ROTTEN RUDY and all the other creeps are hoping.....that we all start infighting, implode and give up.

I think this idea is spectacular and will create a stir no matter what. The event may be a gamble, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Come on every one apologize to each other and lets get our heads together and keep pushing and put Dr. Paul in the White house.

Then after he is elected, those of you that have issues with each other can have a meet-up and beat the shit out of each other, we can even youtube it and digg it like Jack Ass, but for now..........ONWARD AND UPWARD!!

 

[literatim]

I think it is an excellent plan myself. Attract hungry Forum goers who didn't get to hear Ron Paul.

 

[CurtisLow]

Great job John! You'll do great! I wish I could help you out, but I'm stuck in Pa. lol

 

[Zydeco]

I too wonder about the out of state element being spun against us, but there are differences with the Dean analogy as well--this is demonstrating that he's credible with support despite the wishes of the other group's organizer.

Given the two ways they'll have to spin this, which do you think the MSM will choose? Remember, they are as much the enemy as GWB.

Spin #1: an impressive display of Ron Paul supporters on hand in Iowa, showing the other candidates who the *real* tax-cutter is, or

Spin #2: "an unruly, chanting crowd of mostly non-Iowans, some from as far away as Florida, descended upon the Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance's candidates forum in Des Moines today when their candidate, long-shot congressman Ron Paul, wasn't invited to speak at the event alongside Gov. Mike Huckabee, congressman Duncan Hunter, and other, mostly-lower-tier contenders.

"Not all Iowans we talked to were happy about the intrusion. Carol Smith, of Council Bluffs, was offended by the group's loud chanting. And Ed Failor and XXX, heads of Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance, were also not amused..." (pan to Ed Failor, Jr. being interviewed by sympathetic reporter).

Etc. etc.

Hmmm, let me guess how they're going to run with it.

I'd rather have 500 Iowans meeting/protesting than 50,000 out of staters.

 

[megan]

the spin is pretty hard to escape. and it goes both ways. I think all politicans and voters have to be aware of that--too bad most of them just eat it up. looks like I have nothing to add! kbye!

 

[RJB]

Give up Z. It's going to happen. Whether your for it or against it, it doesn't matter at this time. It's happening. The best we can do is make sure it comes out well.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Zydeco....

Are you suggesting that we should shut down the plan to go to Iowa?