Virgil Goode The Constitution Party nominates a neo-con for President.

[TheTexan]

You don't WANT Ron Paul to go Third Party . . . re-MEM-ber?

Actually I do

 

[The Other Andy]

They're not libertarians. They've paleoconservatives. Much better than libertarians.

Sorry, I like my freedom of speech without government boundaries.


Not that that's the only part I disagree with...

No one said they were libertarian. They're paleoconservative. Paleoconservatives make up a decent chunk of Ron Paul people, actually. And everyone over at the CP supports Ron Paul. Everyone--literally. Had Paul walked into that national convention--he would've been Presidential candidate easily by a vote of 403-0.

To be fair, their platform has survived several platform fights. There is a "free market" element within the party that has continually challenged those planks you mentioned (and some others). They again challenged those platform planks this time around, but still don't have the organizational strength to overtake the more vehemently social conservative group.

Again, though, they are nowhere near neoconservative. That label MEANS something.

I suppose that's not surprising, given his strong religious beliefs. None of them would take issue with his refusal to push said beliefs on others though?

None of those quotes have anything to do with neoconservatism.

My mistake. Paleoconservative. Got it.

 

[Nathan Hale]

I donate to Paul's campaign not because I want him to be President, but because I want to spread the message of freedom. The unfortunate reality is that even if we were to politically game the system into a Paul Presidency, he'd get nothing done in office. Sure, he'd end the wars, which is great don't get me wrong, but any significant attempts at restoring freedom would be met with insurmountable resistance.

And that's why this isn't your movie, because most of us are here to actually make a difference by using the system.

We may be outnumbered, but thanks to Dr. Paul's campaign there are millions of freedom lovers across the nation, and even more across the world. We don't need violence to get our freedom back. We need only the inspiration, conviction, and willpower to do what must be done: peaceful secession.

I wouldn't count that out - if all else fails, taking over a state and seceding is a grand idea. New Hampshire comes to mind.

 

[Nathan Hale]

We are a diverse group don't get me wrong, but running as a 3rd party isn't going to bear any fruit that our Republican run hasn't already bore.

Not true. Running as a third candidate changes the dynamic of the race DRAMATICALLY. For starters, it lowers the threshold for victory to under 40%. Paul or Johnson can do that if they poll at 15% and gain access to the debates. It also changes the dynamic of the demographics attracted to each candidate. Once we're free from the GOP paradigm, we can pull as many votes from the left as we have from the right. As a Paul supporter from back in the day, I can tell you as a matter of fact that one of this movements growing demographics is ex-Obama supporters.

 

[TomtheTinker]

OBAMA-ROMNEY-JOHNSON-GOODE. I don't think my options could be worse

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I found some more information of Goode.

*He is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans http://sonsofconfederateveterans.blogspot.com/2007/12/scv-recognizes-congressman-virgil-goode.html
*In 2008, he donated $1,000 to each of Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, and Duncan Hunter http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ode-donates-to-three-presidential-candidates&
*He addressed the Constitution Party in 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbZDvWNtTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rktnHtYLV90&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTtHAMOdK0&feature=relmfu
*Goode has long been in opposition to the North American Union http://www.wnd.com/2007/01/39871/

Here is a video of Goode talking about working with Ron Paul, Walter Jones, John Duncan, Tom Tancredo, and Duncan Hunter on opposing the NAU:


Overall he is better than I originally thought

 

[Captain Shays]

No one said they were libertarian. They're paleoconservative. Paleoconservatives make up a decent chunk of Ron Paul people, actually. And everyone over at the CP supports Ron Paul. Everyone--literally. Had Paul walked into that national convention--he would've been Presidential candidate easily by a vote of 403-0.

To be fair, their platform has survived several platform fights. There is a "free market" element within the party that has continually challenged those planks you mentioned (and some others). They again challenged those platform planks this time around, but still don't have the organizational strength to overtake the more vehemently social conservative group.

Again, though, they are nowhere near neoconservative. That label MEANS something.

Thats right. It means "new style conservative" which means progressive in foreign policy, entltlements, economics, the New Deal and growth of government in size, spending and intrusiveness into our lives.

If I were to wear a label and I hate labels, the one I would wear is paleoconservative. I might also wear one that says classical liberal but I am still trying to discern the difference between the two

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

It seems to me that around 2007 Goode seemed to become more in line with the Constitution party. Perhaps he awoke like many of us did.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

It seems to me that around 2007 Goode seemed to become more in line with the Constitution party. Perhaps he awoke like many of us did.

Not. Politicians do not "awake." Politicians do, however, lie.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Not. Politicians do not "awake." Politicians do, however, lie.

Not true. You cannot say that people's ideas do not change, and they are not exposed to new situations.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Not true. You cannot say that people's ideas do not change, and they are not exposed to new situations.

Yes I can, and I do, and I will always, always, always be right.

 

[cheapseats]

Does anyone believe that, if sundry IF's fall into place (and align with the stars), the "right" Neoconservative could beat Obama this November?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Not. Politicians do not "awake." Politicians do, however, lie.

Congressman Walter Jones certainly had an awakening, and it was Ron Paul and some wounded vets that did it.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Yes I can, and I do, and I will always, always, always be right.

Sorry, but you are quite wrong.

 

[anaconda]

Seems pretty early for their convention.

 

[speciallyblend]

CP lost my vote.

 

[TheTexan]

CP lost my vote.

nobp

 

[Shotdown1027]

Goode isn't perfect by any stretch--but he's definitely come a long way over the last couple of years. He's way more skeptical of foreign adventurism (and has called for withdrawal from Iraq and AfPak), he's called for repeal of NDAA, Real ID, and the Patriot Act, and he donated to Ron Paul's campaign in 2008, remember?

 

[speciallyblend]

nobp

/ NOBP /

 

[Shotdown1027]

Paul might not be on the general election ballot--we have to face up to that reality. If he isn't, write-ins in almost all states won't even get counted and added up. At least vote third party and help them to keep their ballot access. These votes get counted and documented for posterity and they send a signal that you're disaffected and don't like the major party choices.