The anarchists are the realists, not the utopian dreamers.

I think one source of confusion is that people have different ideas of what "anarchy" is. The word "anarchy" is not always used to mean "total chaos and violence".
 
I think Paul is a libertarian essentially. Tell me one area where he wants to expand the government or one area that he wants to expandhe wants to expand the government or one new program he's proposing? He supports secessionist movements. I have heard him speak praisingly of doing away with a standing army (the U.S. military) etc. He wants to end the drug war and smash the IRS, CIA, FBI etc. Paul has said he supports a Madisonian interpretation of the general welfare clause- that means he think all entitlements are uncontitutional. ALL. Department of agriculture, education etc etc etc etc etc etc all unconstitutional by his interpretation. Paul opposes the IRS and the income tax. He opposes terrifs. Essentially he just opposes the existance of our government.

No, I think Paul will move in the correct direction without having any small L libertarian crap views, but I could be wrong.

btw- Tell me what government programs

Paul is a Constitutionalist, and to get back to the limited government as outlined by the Constitution, a great deal of the federal government that now exists has to go.
 
What exactly does it mean to "get along with LE"? Is it "not getting banned"? Is is to "totally avoid her"? :D
Every chance I get. Though I find it's really kinda tough when you're consistently being stalked and harassed. Maybe we just NEED a couple of more "Guidelines" ..... to be violated and ignored. :p
 
Even if you don't vote, if you cooperate with the system willingly and think it is needed then you are supporting it. Maybe there are more anarchist than I am aware of in those non-voting masses though.
I cooperate minimally with the BARBARIC human institutionalized "systems", but NOT willingly. Their mulitlayered ( city, county, state, national, world?? ) hierarchical guns are just bigger and more numerous than mine. The world doesn't really need just another meaningless martyr body count increment.<IMHO>

"By their body counts, ye shall know them."
 
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Guess what, TW. I'm going to continue to vote. So either you start doing the same to make a change, or sit home and do nothing, all the while having your life, liberty, and property affected by other people's votes. That's the system you live in.

Oh, I forgot one more option. You can move...to Somalia, which is infested by domestic Islamic "freedom fighters." ;)
In my 37 years of blanket boycotted, on PRINCIPLE, elections, my missing vote would have changed the outcome of ZERO of them. Guess what Theo, most likely neither did yours. ;) Run the numbers. Do the math. Attempt to imagine the MOST idiotic voter on the other side just merely ALWAYS canceling out the EFFECT of YOUR vote, IF yours was even counted. :D

You can fool all of the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time. Sadly though, all that is usually really necessary is to be able to fool enough of the people enough of the time.

Though I can and do assume and imagine that SATAN really has and does appreciate all of YOUR conscientious and willing continued and ongoing efforts, help and support, at least according to YOUR BIBLE. ;)

"Any compromise between good and evil, only works to the detriment of the good and to the benefit of the evil."


"By their fruits, ye shall know them."
 
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I cooperate minimally with the BARBARIC human institutionalized "systems", but NOT willingly. Their mulitlayered ( city, county, state, national, world?? ) hierarchical guns are just bigger and more numerous than mine. The world doesn't really need just another meaningless martyr body count increment.<IMHO>

"By their body counts, ye shall know them."

You and me both.
 
You and me both.

"Freedom, Peace and Prosperity" -- Ron Paul

Guess where NONE of THAT is EVER coming from.

"Brainwash"ington, D.C.! :p "Slavery, WAR and Destitution" -- D.C. REALITY

The system AIN'T broke, "it's working" ( pragmatically :rolleyes: ) EXACTLY as designed.< IMHO > ;)
Courtesy of the Federalist's U.S. "PERFECT" CONstitution. ( "By their fruits, ye shall know them." )

"The system is corrupt, beyond redemption, and is not worthy of my support!"
 
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I think one source of confusion is that people have different ideas of what "anarchy" is. The word "anarchy" is not always used to mean "total chaos and violence".

anarchy1539, from M.L. anarchia, from Gk. anarkhia "lack of a leader," noun of state from anarkhos "rulerless," from an- "without" + arkhos "leader" (see archon). Anarchist (1678) got a boost into modernity from the French Revolution. Anarcho-syndicalism is first recorded 1913.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=anarchy&searchmode=none
 
Anarchy on a National Level

anarchy1539, from M.L. anarchia, from Gk. anarkhia "lack of a leader," noun of state from anarkhos "rulerless," from an- "without" + arkhos "leader" (see archon). Anarchist (1678) got a boost into modernity from the French Revolution. Anarcho-syndicalism is first recorded 1913.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=anarchy&searchmode=none

Our federal government is an anarchy. It has no leader above it, not even the rule of law.
 
"Freedom, Peace and Prosperity" -- Ron Paul

Guess where NONE of THAT is EVER coming from.

"Brainwash"ington, D.C.! :p "Slavery, WAR and Destitution" -- D.C. REALITY

The system AIN'T broke, "it's working" ( pragmatically :rolleyes: ) EXACTLY as designed.< IMHO > ;)
Courtesy of the Federalist's U.S. "PERFECT" CONstitution. ( "By their fruits, ye shall know them." )

"The system is corrupt, beyond redemption, and is not worthy of my support!"

If you're going to continue to accuse people of contextomy, you might want to adhere to it yourself. You quote Ron Paul to insinuate that he agrees with your viewpoint, when in fact HE DOES NOT. He's an 11 term Republican Congressman who is a stauch supporter of our Constitution and limited government; not the anarchy that you are advocating.
 
I think one source of confusion is that people have different ideas of what "anarchy" is. The word "anarchy" is not always used to mean "total chaos and violence".

+1776 The archists' multi-decade long propaganda campaign seems to have convinced all too many voters otherwise. :(:p
 
If you're going to continue to accuse people of contextomy, you might want to adhere to it yourself. You quote Ron Paul to insinuate that he agrees with your viewpoint, when in fact HE DOES NOT. He's an 11 term Republican Congressman who is a stauch supporter of our Constitution and limited government; not the anarchy that you are advocating.

My post was NOT addressed to, NOR a reply to you.
 
A though it is not perfect, a limited constitutional government is certainly preferable to pure anarchy. In pure anarchy it is simply the tyranny of the person with the largest gun/militia with no guaranteed protection of individual rights. In that sense, anarchy and tyranny are closer than many often imagine. Think of the warlords in Somalia, Afghanistan, Haiti, or other real life examples of modern anarchy and it is clear to see they are not beacons of individualism.

Besides it is purely poisonous to be labeled or associated with any kind of anarchy politically speaking. The freedom movement should certainly have open debate, and my 2 cents is that we should take advantage as much as possible the current climate to get our word on the economy out to the masses, in particular conservatives who are more receptive to the message, in order to plant the seeds of the constitution once again in mainstream American politics. Associating the freedom movement with anarchy, rather than the constitution and American traditions, does not serve well to bring out our message.
 
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