Thanks Anti-Vaxxers. You Just Brought The Measles Back to NYC.

[Nirvikalpa]

Now if the title was "Thanks religious nuts, you just brought the measles back to NYC" Angela would be up in arms, especially with the first paragraph calling them "loons." Yes, many do not vaccinate for religious reasons.

But back to the article - what a joke - because everyone knows the most intellectual argument you can make against someone's point is argumentum ad hominem. /sarc

The only two people I saw share this article on facebook has been 1) a epidemiologist who is a big-government liberal at my college and 2) one of her favorite students who fabricated all her research data, who is now in a top research university... researching vaccines.

I do find it incredibly disheartening that both those who argue for vaccines as well as those who are against vaccines seem to be perfectly alright with the possibility of children dying to prove their point. It's sickening.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Well then, vaccines are good because God gave us the power to rule over all creatures, including bacteria and viruses.

When did viruses become living "creatures?"

 

[oyarde]

I had the measles in the '60's I think , it was not as bad as the mumps or the chicken pox . The mumps really sucked .

 

[fatjohn]

Why would the vaxxers care anyway?

There are a bunch of children who cannot take a vaccine, while they are not a large group they rely on what i believe is called "herd immunity" if the rest of the population is unvaccinated and the diseases return, these children will be exposed no matter what the beliefs of their parents are on this issue.

 

[idiom]

 

[ProIndividual]

The anti-vaccine stuff is usually pushed by the same people who believe in multiple conspiracy theories based on circumstantial evidence at best (nothing more than intuition at worst). I've found that vaccines can kill people...far less than they save. I wish people didn't push these theories, but I also find it ridiculous that they are somehow dragging the movement down, as if they are less crazy or rejected by the general public than hardcore neocon warmonger think tank-types, or communist statist hardcore anti-property-types. All sides have their loons, even the liberty movement.

For people who hate collectivist thinking and group think, it's amazing to me they keep blaming the minority fringe on minor theories that have little to nothing to do why people reject libertarianism as a total philosophy.

The anti-vax people may be flat out wrong (imo), but they are no more the problem with out liberty movement's slow expansion (which is pretty fast if you look at other movements in history - big shit always takes LOTS of time) than the anarchists (I'm one of them) were to blame for Ron Paul not winning in the last two Presidential elections.

anti-vax = not based on all evidence and rational thought /= liberty movement's anchor

 

[Dianne]

I had the measels when I was a kid ... So what? Five or six days of pain, rash, etc... then gone.

Fuck it ... get over it ... it is not a national crisis .. Just like the flu, you get it... suffer a few days and it goes away... No need to call in the National Guard lmao

 

[donnay]

New York Measles Outbreak 90% Vaccinated
http://experimentalvaccines.org/2014/03/31/new-york-measles-outbreak-90-vaccinated/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9sSR8iAJ4M

 

[James Madison]

What percentage of students were vaccinated?

 

[MelissaWV]

I had the measels when I was a kid ... So what? Five or six days of pain, rash, etc... then gone.

Fuck it ... get over it ... it is not a national crisis .. Just like the flu, you get it... suffer a few days and it goes away... No need to call in the National Guard lmao

Except the people who die from it, which I guess actually does make it like the flu in that sense.

Mind you, that's not necessarily a vote in favor of vaccination, and definitely not one in favor of mandatory vaccination. I just think pretending the measles is like a case of the sniffles is ridiculously ignorant.

 

[phill4paul]

It's been a few weeks. Has the entire population of NYC died off yet?

 

[enoch150]

http://www.cfr.org/interactives/GH_Vaccine_Map/#map

 

[Zippyjuan]

Thanks for the chart. May be hard to read by some so here is basics: Chart shows outbreaks of vaccine preventable diseases. Bigger dots mean more cases.
Red- Measles
Pea Green- Mumps
Blue- Rubella
Gold- Polio
Lime Green- Whooping Cough
Yellow- Other