Thanks Anti-Vaxxers. You Just Brought The Measles Back to NYC.

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Measles was considered eliminated at the turn of the millennium. Now it’s back, thanks to the loons to refuse to vaccinate their children.

Of all the things to be nostalgic for, infectious diseases probably don’t make it onto many lists.


However, if you happen to pine for the good old days when measles was an active public health threat, I have good news for you. The anti-vaccine crowd is bringing it back.


There is currently an outbreak of measles in New York City. Considered eliminated in the United States in 2000, last year saw a record number of outbreaks around the country. It’s only three months into 2014, and not only is the nation’s largest city seeing cases in several boroughs, but other major metropolitan areas are warning of new cases as well.

Unfortunately, about one patient in every 1,000 develops inflammation of the brain, and one to three cases per 1000 in the United States result in death.

The explanation is simple, and is as accessible as the nightly news. Vaccine-deniers are responsible to the resurgence of once-eliminated illnesses. Their movement is responsible for sickening people. They are to blame for the word “outbreak” appearing in headlines from coast to coast.

[mod delete] The GOP would like to thank to everybody who consistently attaches this nonsense to the liberty movement.
 
"A history of prior vaccination is not always associated with immunity nor with the presence of specific antibodies."

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article...ays-associated-immunity-nor-presence-specific



20.7% (6 of 29) of persons known to have received measles vaccine had non-protective titers
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article...ved-measles-vaccine-had-non-protective-titers.


A 1993 outbreak of measles in a highly immunized Australian population.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/1993-outbreak-measles-highly-immunised-australian-population


A major measles epidemic occured in 1989 in the region of Quebec despite a 99% vaccine coverage.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article...989-region-quebec-despite-99-vaccine-coverage


A measles outbreak at a college with a prematriculation immunization requirement.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article...ege-prematriculation-immunization-requirement

A measles outbreak in Montana in 1985 indicates vaccine failure.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/measles-outbreak-montana-1985-indicates-vaccine-failure


Despite a high coverage with measles vaccines in parts of west Africa, epidemics of measles occur with reduced severity in an increasing proportion of older children who have been vaccinated.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article...-vaccines-parts-west-africa-epidemics-measles


Diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine administered simultaneously with measles vaccine is associated with increased morbidity and poor growth in girls.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article...s-vaccine-administered-simultaneously-measles


Even though 95% of the children had measles antibodies after vaccination, vaccine efficacy was not more than 68%.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article...-measles-antibodies-after-vaccination-vaccine



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The GOP would like to thank to everybody who consistently attaches this nonsense to the liberty movement.

Thew GOP has nothing to do with the Liberty movement.

It is at best a tool of the Liberty movement ,, and only when it is useful. And it is a very dangerous tool at best.
 
The GOP has nothing to do with the Liberty movement.

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So you don't think it's evil to tell young mothers that vaccinating their babies is poisoning them, and the GOP is crazy not to embrace the people that do. Got it.
 
So you don't think it's evil to tell young mothers that vaccinating their babies is poisoning them, and the GOP is crazy not to embrace the people that do. Got it.

What is evil is to subject people to Big Pharma's medical tyranny, which is what you want to do considering that you demonize anyone who offers a different opinion. The establishment thanks you for acting as their thought police.
 
propaganda

You keep using that word but you don't know what it means. (Or you do, and you are ironically intentionally using it as propaganda.)

Propaganda is defined as being misleading or untrue. The anti-vaxxers post it all the time. There's a science behind it - the intentionally target groups where young mothers are predictably unsure in their new role, to try to convince them to make their babies sick from diseases that are entirely preventable.
 
Thew GOP has nothing to do with the Liberty movement.

It is at best a tool of the Liberty movement ,, and only when it is useful. And it is a very dangerous tool at best.

Here's the thing though. Since our candidates are using this tool called the GOP to get elected, it doesn't behoove us to provide the establishment more ammo to use to make mainstream America think we are crazy as all hell and to be afraid of us.
 
What is evil is to subject people to Big Pharma's medical tyranny, which is what you want to do considering that you demonize anyone who offers a different opinion. The establishment thanks you for acting as their thought police.


Fact isn't opinion. There are no facts to support the anti-vax position. Therefore, there is no real debate to be had.

If we are going to try to keep governments from mandating vaccines, we have to be diligent about making sure people have accurate information about the safety and importance of vaccinating children.

The articles that the anti-vaxxers post are almost always 100% factually wrong. It really is that simple, and I will absolutely demonize the posts that literally endanger the liberty movement as well as the babies with falsehoods and lies.
 
Here's the thing though. Since our candidates are using this tool called the GOP to get elected, it doesn't behoove us to provide the establishment more ammo to use to make mainstream America think we are crazy as all hell and to be afraid of us.
If you're really worried about what the GOP will see when they come here, you should start focusing some attention in the Religion subforum. I'm not kidding.
 
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda


“Universal literacy was supposed to educate the common man to control his environment. Once he could read and write he would have a mind fit to rule. So ran the democratic doctrine. But instead of a mind, universal literacy has given him rubber stamps, rubber stamps inked with advertising slogans, with editorials, with published scientific data, with the trivialities of the tabloids and the platitudes of history, but quite innocent of original thought. Each man's rubber stamps are the duplicates of millions of others, so that when those millions are exposed to the same stimuli, all receive identical imprints. It may seem an exaggeration to say that the American public gets most of its ideas in this wholesale fashion. The mechanism by which ideas are disseminated on a large scale is propaganda, in the broad sense of an organized effort to spread a particular belief or doctrine.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda
 
Donnay, I think there are way too many mandatory vaccinations today. But, telling people they shouldn't get immunizations like polio shots and other basic ones is quite simply, nuts. Sorry, that's the way I see it.
 
That article appears to be a hit piece. I didn't see any statistics or research, just accusations. Oh, there was one stat, maybe "nearly half of those in L.A. were unvaxed", meaning over half were vaxed.
 
So you don't think it's evil to tell young mothers that vaccinating their babies is poisoning them, and the GOP is crazy not to embrace the people that do. Got it.

I could give a shit what the GOP will embrace.

The GOP embraces Israel. And Global War against a tactic. And The War on Drugs.

The GOP embraces NSA Spying on Americans. and the NDAA,, and the war on Whistle blowers.

If parents want to protect their children from the poisons of Big Pharma that is their right.
 
Donnay, I think there are way too many mandatory vaccinations today. But, telling people they shouldn't get immunizations like polio shots and other basic ones is quite simply, nuts. Sorry, that's the way I see it.


We've been through this time and time again. Nobody wants mandatory vaccines, but the absolute lies about them that get posted here to scare people away from vaccinating their kids won't stop that.

In fact, I predict they will actually serve the opposite purpose, and here is why. It is absolutely indisputable that vaccines work. When someone tries to tell you that they don't, you can write them off as eccentric.

Now when that same person tells you that mandated vaccines are actually a bad idea, they already have no credibility.
 
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