texas state convention -- RP supporters UNITE!!

[goat farmer]

the post from ronpaulbillboards is the way to move forward... making fools of ourselves at the state convention by yelling, holding signs, sending through an anti-mccain resolution will do nothing but label every Paul supporter there (no offense).

We need to be organized behind the scenes, play by the rules and get as many of us through to the national convention with as many (logical) changes to the state platform as possible. That is what has gotten us this far.

Stay in touch with your meetups and your coordinators from the grassroots login system (precinct leader/delegate system) - they are already working on it, this is the way we all come together and get some real-world things done. This forum really serves no other purpose than just posting general info and encouragement.... the real work is done person to person at meetups and through email/phone.

If we do this, the neo-cons will be the minority... in reality, Paul can't be president without some sort of miracle. The real goal at this point is to push through Paul's ideals and make them a part of the state platform (most are already in the platform, believe it or not - read it!). The real goal is to take over the GOP and fill it with Ron Paul minded people.. there are more of them already in the party than neo-cons, they just don't realize it yet. Befriend the people in your own party, don't be combative to them, we need them and they need us to clean out the neo-cons. I've found that 99% of the regulars in the party do NOT like McCain, but they are realistic and are assuming he will be the nominee. Instead of wasting their time being mad about it, they are concentrating on things they CAN change, the state platform, resolutions, etc.

OK, then when 75% of everyone at the national convention are with us, maybe a miracle can happen, but you have to get there first and pick up more supporters (already in the party) along the way. At that point, the Revolution will be in control no matter who is the nominee!! Think about our power to lead the party long term.. that's where the true Revolution will succeed, we are the future and they are starting to realize this and for the most part most like it believe it or not!

 

[squandertime]

ok so we dont do anything but hide......

got it.

 

[goat farmer]

ok so we dont do anything but hide......

got it.

Of course not, read my post again.






Another thing I think is that we should have a STATE WIDE practice convention with All delegates and alternates that support Ron Paul... Central Texas somewhere... ...

 

[weslinder]

From talking to those who have attended Texas conventions in the past, supporting Ron Paul and ideas of liberty is not a stigma among convention goers. My land-grabbing State Senator Tommy Williams was booed loudly at the last one. I will be dressed up and will keep Ron Paul paraphanalia to wristbands and lapel pins, but I will gladly wave signs and boo any neocon or RINO that talks, from Gov. Perry on down.

 

[jblosser]

We need to first and foremost remember what brought us here: Respect for individual liberty and personal responsibility, and disdain for the compromise and incrementalist principles that have made our party so ineffective for years. Not one of us has a right to tell another one of us how to vote or how to behave (as long as it's peaceful) or who to boo or not to boo.

I certainly understand the value of organization and coordination but we need to keep in mind that local government works and has worked better for us here in Texas than any overt centralization ever will. All of the counties, SDs, and CDs have some of their own battles to wage and they know those battles better than those in other areas. Before any of us start saying what has to happen based on our experience in our own areas we owe it to ourselves to assess the full situation, understand our macro and micro goals, and then let people pursue them the ways that they believe in.

Freedom movements fail all the time because people try to assert themselves on others too much. That is not our message and it is not our candidate and we can't let it happen here or we will fall prey to their attempts to divide and infiltrate and marginalize us.

 

[Working Poor]

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[Brown Sapper]

If you guys are delagates, try to get on all the commitees. It work well in SD7 and try to find out if there were anymore RP sympathizers that are going to state with you and try to convert them or at least support RP issues. I think the most important issue is unbinding the delagates. That would help tenfold if we can get our guys to national. Try and sneak it onto New Resolution then hopefully it will get pass on a slate.

 

[Brown Sapper]

Hey I heard from my meetup that the actual guy from the campaign is going to come down and help organize the people, but don't wait on them to get the ball rolling. Hopefully we can have people on the commitees and people getting more delagates on our side to help push our cause.

 

[Brown Sapper]

Wow finally I'm a Senior Member Yeah Me!!!

 

[Carole]

The neocons are on to you now, so will be working hard to stop you. They will use every trick in the book.

Stick together and good luck to all of you. Great work so far.

 

[squandertime]

well in texas you got to understand we are not happy with mccain.
duncan hunter won the straw poll here.
and everyone is pissed at perry.

we have an opportunity here.......... i think....... for something

 

[Akus]

This is not very logical. If they believe McCain is the only choice they won't support an anti McCain resolution. I really don't know what's the best plan but you also have to show them an alternative.

i personally would absolutely love if Ron Paul went to Houston and gave a speech about himself and about the situation the Republican party is in. I think that would be an instant turnaround....

 

[torchbearer]

i personally would absolutely love if Ron Paul went to Houston and gave a speech about himself and about the situation the Republican party is in. I think that would be an instant turnaround....

QFT.

 

[torchbearer]

Wow finally I'm a Senior Member Yeah Me!!!

Heh. Congrats! i have to watch how much i post, once you reach 10,000 post you have to retire from the forum.

Most of my post were bumps..... mostly during the time the trolls were trashing this place at will.... and we did nothing about it in the name of being a "liberty forum".

 

[jblosser]

Heh. Congrats! i have to watch how much i post, once you reach 10,000 post you have to retire from the forum.

We have term limits?

 

[torchbearer]

We have term limits?

Any truly libertarian society believes in a good rotation of leadership.

 

[Tarzan]

ok so we dont do anything but hide......

got it.

I don't think anyone is suggesting you hide. Some tactics do not work to our advantage.

For example... when Perry (thug) speaks don't boo him down... instead meet his every word with deafening silence... that can make as much of a statement as booing... perhaps a better one.

Imagine Rick (I want to steal your land and give to my rich friends and prepare for my retirement) Perry finishing his speech without any applause... then the sound of crickets chirping... near silence.

Or, have everyone stand and turn their back on him... something like the vets did to Clinton the First. And have key people ready to answer questions so you can clearly express what the statement means... and maybe make the news.

Sign waving is fun but has never produced any huge results... signs are also rather common at a convention. So, maybe another type of statement... find a seating chart... see if you can have RP delegates wear the same color shirts and take seats that will spell out his name when viewed from a high angle... or, have all RP delegates wear the same color shirt with an RP slogan... come up with something cool and new.

Acting as a group would be great... just come up with some novel ideas to get attention yet retain a very respectable mode of conduct... THAT will stun our detractors and possible win even more support.

again... be sure to have well spoken individuals ready to talk to the media... this will be a big opportunity... especially if someone can come up with novel ideas.

 

[Tarzan]

Oh... and one more thing... while I do not like the "March on Washington" plans for a number of reasons... but, that aside:

Imagine if the venue of a major Ron Paul March were to be Houston (rather than DC)... during the state gop convention... just a few miles from RPs congressional district... and just a few miles from the beaches along the Gulf Coast for a combined vacation... hmmmm.

just a random thought

 

[Akus]

I certainly understand the value of organization and coordination but we need to keep in mind that local government works and has worked better for us here in Texas than any overt centralization ever will. All of the counties, SDs, and CDs have some of their own battles to wage and they know those battles better than those in other areas. Before any of us start saying what has to happen based on our experience in our own areas we owe it to ourselves to assess the full situation, understand our macro and micro goals, and then let people pursue them the ways that they believe in.

Jblosser I agree with you that we need to plant roots in our local neck of the wood before the major shifts in the Washington D.C. take place, but as I read the platforms of the local sheriffs and as I hear the major issues of the local Republicans, I can't help them.

The reason I can't help them is because I think that either the problems that they talk about are really simptoms of a problem or problems on the federal level.

I don't see what I can do about illegal immigration problem in Dallas. I find it pointless to look into every corner and under every rug searching for illegal aliens because the migration north from Mexico is a natural free market movement that is problematic specifically because of endless government red tape. This is very similar to migration of Blacks north in 40s and 50s as the industrial North had jobs and agrarian South didn't.

Neither do I see what I can do about freeing all the non-violent drug offenders. Neither Dallas Co Sheriff Nominee (Bowles/Cannady) can do that, even if they wanted to (I think). The over population of prisons with non-violent drug offenders is a federal problem. It is at D.C. that someone has to repeal this idiotic laws that hurt innocent people and do absolutely nothing to curb drug abuse.

I hope you understand what I mean. Most problems cannot be solved on a local level because they're approached fundamentally wrong from the beginning.

 

[cjhowe]

Jblosser I agree with you that we need to plant roots in our local neck of the wood before the major shifts in the Washington D.C. take place, but as I read the platforms of the local sheriffs and as I hear the major issues of the local Republicans, I can't help them.

The reason I can't help them is because I think that either the problems that they talk about are really simptoms of a problem or problems on the federal level.

I don't see what I can do about illegal immigration problem in Dallas. I find it pointless to look into every corner and under every rug searching for illegal aliens because the migration north from Mexico is a natural free market movement that is problematic specifically because of endless government red tape. This is very similar to migration of Blacks north in 40s and 50s as the industrial North had jobs and agrarian South didn't.

Neither do I see what I can do about freeing all the non-violent drug offenders. Neither Dallas Co Sheriff Nominee (Bowles/Cannady) can do that, even if they wanted to (I think). The over population of prisons with non-violent drug offenders is a federal problem. It is at D.C. that someone has to repeal this idiotic laws that hurt innocent people and do absolutely nothing to curb drug abuse.

I hope you understand what I mean. Most problems cannot be solved on a local level because they're approached fundamentally wrong from the beginning.

Akus, I think he was referring to party battles, not legislative ones.