Ted Cruz goes after Donald Trump for attacking George W. Bush

[AuH20]

Ted Cruz will work with the party establishment to screw Trump in a brokered convention scenario. Guaranteed. He's no good and follows a strange brand of Christianity (the New Apostolic Reformation).

 

[Hurricane Bruiser]

where are all the Cruz apologists who will explain this as more pro-bush = pro-liberty???

Well speaking out against what Trump said is hardly saying that Bush had a great foreign policy. Trump is a blithering idiot with no principles that I have seen. I am happy for anyone to attack Trump. I like Cruz and Carson out of who is left. Of those on the GOP side right now, Cruz has been much more cautious in not attacking countries than the others with voting records.

 

[Gh34]

Well speaking out against what Trump said is hardly saying that Bush had a great foreign policy. Trump is a blithering idiot with no principles that I have seen. I am happy for anyone to attack Trump. I like Cruz and Carson out of who is left. Of those on the GOP side right now, Cruz has been much more cautious in not attacking countries than the others with voting records.

Cruz is running the same old con game as Bush. His true position is in favor of Iraq and Bush as we see in the OP. Again, see:

He's running the exact same game as Bush 2000.

Here's Bush in 2000, attacking 'nation building':



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#History

"The Bush campaign and the early Bush administration did not exhibit strong endorsement of neoconservative principles. As a presidential candidate, Bush had argued for a restrained foreign policy, stating his opposition to the idea of nation-building[SUP][62][/SUP] and an early foreign policy confrontation with China was managed without the vociferousness suggested by some neoconservatives.[SUP][63][/SUP] Also early in the administration, some neoconservatives criticized Bush's administration as insufficiently supportive of Israel, and suggested Bush's foreign policies were not substantially different from those of President Clinton.[SUP][64][/SUP]

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[jkob]

Ted has been a snake from the beginning, I wish we all listened to the people that warned us about this. Where would we be with a Senator Dewhurst?

 

[Gh34]

By the way, Cruz also supported taking out Assad's chemical weapons:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130727090554/http://www.cruz.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=344135

He has now deleted it from his website, suspicious, isn't it?

 

[Gh34]

Ted has been a snake from the beginning, I wish we all listened to the people that warned us about this. Where would we be with a Senator Dewhurst?

Probably the same policy-wise in the senate, but here's the main difference in terms of the impact. Could you imagine the field without Rubio or Trump or Cruz? Without these astroturf tea party guys (rubio and cruz) and Trump, had Rand kept to his core principles, he would have had a much better shot at beating Bush head on, that's what the neocons were worried about it since the beginning. Hence why Glenn Beck was freaking out at the early beginnings of the original Libertarian Tea Party with Ron Paul back in the late 2000s, calling him a kooky fanatic, etc.



Beck and Cruz do very well as a pair, as they're playing the same con-game, trying to sway liberty supporters back into supporting a neocon candidate. Hence, neocons like Adelson vehemently denied Rand, but supported Cruz.

If it had been Rand vs. Bush head-on, Rand would have had a very good chance of winning, wouldn't you say?

 

[LifeLibertyPursuit]

Cruz is the preacher who sales used cars on weekdays for money to spend on hookers and blow at night then on Sunday blasts everyone for being sinners and we are all going to hell behind the pulpit.

 

[cajuncocoa]

From what I can see, Cruz is better on those issues than Trump. Cruz has even advocated returning to the gold standard. (And yeah, I know he shouldn't have missed the audit the Fed vote, but that doesn't mean he opposes auditing the Fed)

What do you think Cruz is more likely to do in his term as president, if elected:

1) return our economic system to the Gold Standard?
2) end the Federal Reserve System?
3) Go to war (where? who knows?)

 

[Brett85]

What do you think Cruz is more likely to do in his term as president, if elected:

1) return our economic system to the Gold Standard?
2) end the Federal Reserve System?
3) Go to war (where? who knows?)

He probably wouldn't have the support of Congress for the first two, so I can see what you're saying. I do still think that Cruz would at least be less likely to take us to war than Trump, because he's at least said that he won't go to war without Congressional approval, while Trump has never promised that. Cruz also doesn't have the temper that Trump has. We might wake up some day and find that Trump has nuked a major city in the Middle East.

 

[cajuncocoa]

He probably wouldn't have the support of Congress for the first two, so I can see what you're saying. I do still think that Cruz would at least be less likely to take us to war than Trump, because he's at least said that he won't go to war without Congressional approval, while Trump has never promised that. Cruz also doesn't have the temper that Trump has. We might wake up some day and find that Trump has nuked a major city in the Middle East.

I don't think Cruz would have any trouble getting that Congressional approval from a friendly Congress. All he'd have to do is raise his little pinky, and they'd do his bidding. That said, you're right about Trump....I don't support Trump either, Brett. Actually right now, I don't support anyone. The only candidate I could support has left the stage.

 

[Gh34]

I don't think Cruz would have any trouble getting that Congressional approval from a friendly Congress. All he'd have to do is raise his little pinky, and they'd do his bidding. That said, you're right about Trump....I don't support Trump either, Brett. Actually right now, I don't support anyone. The only candidate I could support has left the stage.

Remember that congress supported the iraq war, and it's resolutions like that Cruz would support. The gold standard and fed abolition have no chance in congress though. Fed abolition might, but you'd have to replace it with something democrats could live with, Rand/Ron might be able to make that deal, but Cruz wouldn't be able to.

 

[Brett85]

I don't think Cruz would have any trouble getting that Congressional approval from a friendly Congress. All he'd have to do is raise his little pinky, and they'd do his bidding. That said, you're right about Trump....I don't support Trump either, Brett. Actually right now, I don't support anyone. The only candidate I could support has left the stage.

Fair enough.

 

[twomp]

From what I can see, Cruz is better on those issues than Trump. Cruz has even advocated returning to the gold standard. (And yeah, I know he shouldn't have missed the audit the Fed vote, but that doesn't mean he opposes auditing the Fed)

You must be blind then. Cruz missed the audit the Fed vote then fails to disclose his Goldman Sachs loan. You must like Bush and Obama as President because you support Cruz. You see, Bush wasn't that different from Obama and they both aren't that different from Cruz because all 3 say what they need to in order to win. The reality is that all 3 are owned by Goldman Sachs and they will rule in the same manner.

 

[Brett85]

You must like Bush and Obama as President because you support Cruz.

 

[Gh34]

You already said that you're willing to support Rubio, and Cruz is another fraud in his making, another astroturf tea party controlled opposition.

 

[Brett85]

You already said that you're willing to support Rubio, and Cruz is another fraud in his making, another astroturf tea party controlled opposition.

That's not what I said. It's funny that the people who call Cruz a liar are the biggest liars of all.

 

[Brett85]

It's also funny to keep getting lectured by someone who has 66 posts here, while I have over 20,000 and a reputation beyond repute.

 

[Gh34]

That's not what I said. It's funny that the people who call Cruz a liar are the biggest liars of all.

You said that you were willing to support Rubio, if you aren't, then rule him out, right now. You're playing the same 'on the fence/can go both ways' position that Cruz does for every issue, which is why no one can believe Cruz on anything.

 

[hells_unicorn]

Ted Cruz will work with the party establishment to screw Trump in a brokered convention scenario. Guaranteed. He's no good and follows a strange brand of Christianity (the New Apostolic Reformation).

Ted Cruz's brand of Christianity is not all that strange if the basis of comparison is most of American Baptist culture. They've basically taken the Jesuit principle of attrition-based confession and simply gotten rid of the confession box. All he needs to do after lying or crossing his fingers when swearing to do something is go somewhere and say the Sinner's Prayer a couple times and his scruples will vanish.

It's a completely alien form of Christianity to someone who understands the proper relationship between the Law and the Gospel, and particularly the 3rd use of the Law, but America has largely abandoned this principle since the rise of the Dispensationalist and Antinomian movements in the 19th century.

 

[Dianne]

Cruz also said he would get rid of the IRS.. Problem is you cant believe anything Cruz says because he has shown himself to be a liar over and over again...

This is clearly evident from his behavior in Iowa going after Carson.. I mean cmon.. if I trusted cruz to keep his word I would vote for him.. but hes a phony liar.. and everybody knows it now.

That's the problem I have. He is on the Goldman Sachs payroll, and will do or say anything to get elected. They are all liars. Look at Rubio who appeared on one of the spanish networks, and said in spanish if he is elected President he will not reverse Obama's executive orders granting amnesty to half the world; yet, in debates he constantly says there will be no amnesty. When Cruz challenged Rubio at the debate, Rubio said how do you know what I was saying; you don't speak Spanish? Wherein Cruz retorted in spanish.