Ted Cruz goes after Donald Trump for attacking George W. Bush

Without Trump, we wouldn't have seen this side of Cruz, though he did drop hints along the way.
 
He hasn't told any lies on Trump. Trump is a big government progressive liberal, which is what Cruz pointed out. Cruz didn't have anything to do with what his campaign team did regarding Carson. He wasn't involved in it. Perhaps he should've fired the people involved, but he didn't authorize it.


Oh no? "If you elect Trump, the 2nd Amendment goes bye bye" Trump still supports abortion" two lies right there. Have you also heard the push-polls his people are doing? And for someone who had no part in lying on Carson, he sure apologized a lot. Sorry Brett, but if you had nothing to do with cheating someone out of votes, you would NEVER admit to the mistake by apologizing. Cruz has got you fooled into believing he's this nice guy. He's the same guy who wanted to keep a man in prison for the rest of his life(16 years is a long time) for stealing a calculator, a crime that calls for two years max but they instead had him in prison a lot longer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/opinion/the-brutalism-of-ted-cruz.html
 
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He hasn't told any lies on Trump. Trump is a big government progressive liberal, which is what Cruz pointed out. Cruz didn't have anything to do with what his campaign team did regarding Carson. He wasn't involved in it. Perhaps he should've fired the people involved, but he didn't authorize it.

Cruz is in bed with the snakes known for these tactics. He has always done this.

https://newrepublic.com/article/127717/ted-cruzs-howitzer

Here's what his campaign adviser has said in the past:

"[Roe hums a melody]Hi, this is Jeff Roe calling from Penthouse—I mean, uh, Graves for Congress. Call me when you can. I’m interested in your debate memo. I know you’re waiting on a sponsor for a media host. So, gimme a call when you get a chance. 407-NAUGHTY-GIRLS—I mean, 1222. Gimme a call when you can. Thanks. Bye."

Some 'christian', right?
 
Came into office in the best of times- economy sound, budget deficit basically gone, world relatively peaceful. Left with worst recession since the Great Depression and two major wars going on and record budget deficits

All because of a blowjob.
 
Except Cruz supported nation building in Iraq, which is why he is defending Bush here.

False. Cruz is on record as opposing nation building and has said that the war in Iraq was a mistake. He's defending Bush here because Trump claimed that he lied about the WMD's. That was what was controversial about Trump's comment, not simply that he said that the Iraq War was a mistake. He had said that the Iraq War was a mistake in previous debates and was never criticized for that. You can be opposed to the Iraq War and nation building without believing that Bush lied about the WMD's.
 
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Oh no? "If you elect Trump, the 2nd Amendment goes bye bye" Trump still supports abortion" two lies right there.

Those aren't lies. Trump wrote in his book that he supports a ban on "assault weapons," still says that abortion should be legal in some circumstances and still supports funding Planned Parenthood, and said that his liberal pro choice, pro gun control sister would make a good Supreme Court justice.
 
False. Cruz is on record as opposing nation building and has said that the war in Iraq was a mistake. He's defending Bush here because Trump claimed that he lied about the WMD's. That was what was controversial about Trump's record, not simply that he said that the Iraq War was a mistake. He had said that the Iraq War was a mistake in previous debates and was never criticized for that. You can be opposed to the Iraq War and nation building without believing that Bush lied about the WMD's.

No, this has been explained to you before. In the CNN debate in September, when Trump said that he was the only one who had opposed the Iraq war, Carson and Rand also stood up and said that they had opposed it. On the other hand, Cruz said nothing, because he supported, and again he is defending and justifying Bush here too. Jeb used the same line of logic as Cruz saying that 'based on what we know now' the Iraq war was a mistake, however he justified the initial intelligence, as did Cruz and hence justified the invasion based on the context.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/13/politics/jeb-bush-iraq-2016/

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/241818-cruz-of-course-iraq-was-a-mistake

Of course it's a fallacy considering that many people like Ron Paul were specifically opposing the Iraq War back in 2002-2003, saying that the war was based on faulty intelligence in the first place.
 
Cruz has said verbatim that he will use any "tools" he can to win.. thats code for lie, cheat, steal.. whatever it takes.. principles be damned.

unless theyre goldman sach's principles... then maybe he'll stand up for them
 
No, this has been explained to you before. In the CNN debate in September, when Trump said that he was the only one who had opposed the Iraq war, Carson and Rand also stood up and said that they had opposed it. On the other hand, Cruz said nothing, because he supported, and again he is defending and justifying Bush here too. Jeb used the same line of logic as Cruz saying that 'based on what we know now' the Iraq war was a mistake, however he justified the initial intelligence, as did Cruz and hence justified the invasion based on the context.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/13/politics/jeb-bush-iraq-2016/

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/241818-cruz-of-course-iraq-was-a-mistake

Of course it's a fallacy considering that many people like Ron Paul were specifically opposing the Iraq War back in 2002-2003, saying that the war was based on faulty intelligence in the first place.

Neither Trump or Cruz opposed the war before it began. Trump is the one who keeps lying by saying he opposed the war from the beginning. It's been pointed out by fact checking groups that Trump didn't start opposing the Iraq War until a year into the war.
 
Those aren't lies. Trump wrote in his book that he supports a ban on "assault weapons," still says that abortion should be legal in some circumstances and still supports funding Planned Parenthood, and said that his liberal pro choice, pro gun control sister would make a good Supreme Court justice.


He has changed his opinion for the better, him and his son are BOTH NRA members, that is as pro gun as you get. So again, Cruz lied saying that the 2nd would go bye bye. Remove the blinders my friend. He also said he would never nominate his sister due to conflict of interest, perhaps you should stop listening to the Cruz lies. He supports the fact that they give birth control to the poor, free pap smears and cancer checks, he doesn't support abortion. He said he would make it a priority to defund the abortion aspect, oh wait, that was already defunded, next* argument.
 
Those aren't lies. Trump wrote in his book that he supports a ban on "assault weapons," still says that abortion should be legal in some circumstances and still supports funding Planned Parenthood, and said that his liberal pro choice, pro gun control sister would make a good Supreme Court justice.

Reagan supported the assault weapons ban in the mid-90s, and in fact, Reagan is the reason why full-autos aren't legal today with his machine gun ban from the mid-80s. Again, about Trump's sister that has nothing to do with Gun Control, it was a technical ruling regarding abortion, that ALITO agreed with.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/27/nyregion/court-says-new-jersey-cannot-ban-abortion-procedure.html

And she was also a character witness for Alito's confirmation

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/07/politics/politicsspecial1/07confirm.html?_r=0

Is Alito a liberal now? Were Goldwater/Reagan liberals for being pro-choice at various points and voting in favor of abortion?
 
False. Cruz is on record as opposing nation building and has said that the war in Iraq was a mistake. He's defending Bush here because Trump claimed that he lied about the WMD's. That was what was controversial about Trump's comment, not simply that he said that the Iraq War was a mistake. He had said that the Iraq War was a mistake in previous debates and was never criticized for that. You can be opposed to the Iraq War and nation building without believing that Bush lied about the WMD's.


Opposed to nation building, but not opposed to making the middle east glow. Gotcha.
 
Neither Trump or Cruz opposed the war before it began. Trump is the one who keeps lying by saying he opposed the war from the beginning. It's been pointed out by fact checking groups that Trump didn't start opposing the Iraq War until a year into the war.

So now you're changing your line of argumentation after being exposed. Here's why Trump said r.e. Iraq. He said the US should wait for more evidence from the UN, which is exactly what Ron Paul was saying too.

"Well, he has either got to do something or not do something, perhaps, because perhaps shouldn't be doing it yet and perhaps we should be waiting for the United Nations, you know. He's under a lot of pressure. I think he's doing a very good job. But, of course, if you look at the polls, a lot of people are getting a little tired. I think the Iraqi situation is a problem. And I think the economy is a much bigger problem as far as the president is concerned."
 
He has changed his opinion for the better, him and his son are BOTH NRA members, that is as pro gun as you get. So again, Cruz lied saying that the 2nd would go bye bye. Remove the blinders my friend. He also said he would never nominate his sister due to conflict of interest, perhaps you should stop listening to the Cruz lies. He supports the fact that they give birth control to the poor, free pap smears and cancer checks, he doesn't support abortion. He said he would make it a priority to defund the abortion aspect, oh wait, that was already defunded, next* argument.

Cruz said that the 2nd Amendment would be gone with a Trump Presidency because Trump has a history of supporting liberal politicians who support gun control, gave an example of an ideal Supreme Court justice who was a liberal, and previously supported a ban on assault weapons. That't not a lie. That's just evidence that Trump isn't any kind of conservative and wouldn't nominate conservatives to the Supreme Court. With Trump, we're talking about the guy who has said that the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII was a good idea. Why would anyone trust him to nominate Constitutionalists to the Supreme Court?
 
Cruz said that the 2nd Amendment would be gone with a Trump Presidency because Trump has a history of supporting liberal politicians who support gun control, gave an example of an ideal Supreme Court justice who was a liberal, and previously supported a ban on assault weapons. That't not a lie. That's just evidence that Trump isn't any kind of conservative and wouldn't nominate conservatives to the Supreme Court. With Trump, we're talking about the guy who has said that the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII was a good idea. Why would anyone trust him to nominate Constitutionalists to the Supreme Court?


Reagan supported gun control, the brady bill, the assault weapons ban, and was responsible for the machine gun ban in the first place, that banned full-autos.
 
Reagan supported gun control, the brady bill, the assault weapons ban, and was responsible for the machine gun ban in the first place, that banned full-autos.

Reagan wasn't as conservative as people made him out to be. He ran as a conservative when he ran for President but didn't really govern as a conservative.
 
Reagan wasn't as conservative as people made him out to be. He ran as a conservative when he ran for President but didn't really govern as a conservative.

Because he subscribed to neocon ideology, not libertarianism, as does Cruz, and as did Bush. Cruz is playing the exact same faux-evangelical game that Bush did back in 2000. At the end of the day, he'll do whatever his puppet masters want of him. Hence his shifty positions regarding gay marriage, the nsa, immigration, etc.
 
Of course Trump is an NRA member, why would he pass up an opportunity to make nice with an extremely powerful political group? He donates money to anyone who is powerful.

Cruz talking all neocon doesn't prove he's a neocon any more than his talking all libertarian proves he's a libertarian. The only thing it proves is that he's an opportunist who will say anything to get more power.
 
Of course Trump is an NRA member, why would he pass up an opportunity to make nice with an extremely powerful political group? He donates money to anyone who is powerful.

Cruz talking all neocon doesn't prove he's a neocon any more than his talking all libertarian proves he's a libertarian. The only thing it proves is that he's an opportunist who will say anything to get more power.

He's running the exact same game as Bush 2000.

Here's Bush in 2000, attacking 'nation building':



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#History

"The Bush campaign and the early Bush administration did not exhibit strong endorsement of neoconservative principles. As a presidential candidate, Bush had argued for a restrained foreign policy, stating his opposition to the idea of nation-building[SUP][62][/SUP] and an early foreign policy confrontation with China was managed without the vociferousness suggested by some neoconservatives.[SUP][63][/SUP] Also early in the administration, some neoconservatives criticized Bush's administration as insufficiently supportive of Israel, and suggested Bush's foreign policies were not substantially different from those of President Clinton.[SUP][64][/SUP]

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