Tea Party Anger at Michele Bachmann Explodes over Patriot Act Votes

[amy31416]

I think we all have to accept one serious flaw of Ron Paul: He endorses people who come nowhere near to being as good as they should be...we learned this the hard way in 2008.

The lesson I took away from this is to do the vetting of a candidate here or on your own. RP is a human, flawed individual and he does not make the best decisions in this realm...something we'll have to realize, or keep being disappointed. Of course, it's great to have their answers to the CfL surveys so we can hold their lies up to the light of day, as I did with my congressjerk who stated on the survey that he would NOT vote for the Patriot Act--then, of course, did.

 

[Romulus]

Yep, I was disappointed when I saw RP supported and gave her money...

 

[specialkornflake]

Her response:

Just to be clear I have serious concerns about a complete reauthorization of the Patriot Act, the three expiring provisions I voted for were temporary and will give Congress and opportunity to debate and review them in the upcoming months. As a Member of the House Intelligence Committee, I look forward to making sure our intelligence laws are implemented in a way that reflects our constitutional principles.

 

[Danke]

Screw her.

From 1988 to 1993, Bachmann was a U.S. Treasury Department attorney in the US Federal Tax Court located in St. Paul. According to Bachmann, she represented the Internal Revenue Service "in hundreds of cases"[10] (both civil and criminal) prosecuting people who underpaid or failed to pay their taxes

 

[dean.engelhardt]

I know RP supports her, but she is one of the most gullible, stupid politicians I've seen. I heard that she is attacking Michelle Obama for supporting breastfeeding. She fell for the $600M Obama trip in a big way. I really wonder how she got her law degree.

 

[Elwar]

Ron Paul had to endorse a lot of incumbants as part of being in the Republican Party. He endorsed every Texas Republican incumbant for this reason.

 

[specsaregood]

I know RP supports her, but she is one of the most gullible, stupid politicians I've seen. I heard that she is attacking Michelle Obama for supporting breastfeeding.

You sure it wasnt' related to the breastfeeding provisions in Obamacare? The ones that require businesses to set aside a seperate room and designate it just for employees to pump breastmilk?

Edit: Nevermind, found it.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/16/michele-bachmann-slams-michelle-obama-over-breastfeeding-does-s/

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., took a swipe Wednesday at Michelle Obama over the first lady's support of tax breaks to mothers for purchasing breast pumps and nursing supplies. Obama has cited studies that correlate longer breastfeeding with lower rates of childhood obesity, but for Bachmann, such government incentives smack of an all-too-literal "nanny state."

"For them, government is the answer to every problem," Bachmann told radio talk-show host Laura Ingraham. "And so government got us in this problem, and so they think government is going to get us out of the problem. Clearly they're wrong."

Bachmann is a moron, I'd support that tax break, hell I'd support most any tax break.

 

[amy31416]

I know RP supports her, but she is one of the most gullible, stupid politicians I've seen. I heard that she is attacking Michelle Obama for supporting breastfeeding. She fell for the $600M Obama trip in a big way. I really wonder how she got her law degree.

She truly is a moron.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol..._first_lady_michelle_obama_over_breastfe.html

It's a freaking tax break via categorization as a medical device...and she's claiming that the gov't wants to "buy" mothers a breast pump. My only complaint about Michelle Obama's anti-obesity crap is that she calls it a "national security" issue--and that she wants more skinny Americans for the meat-grinder, which is something that Bachmann obviously supports.

 

[Brett85]

Here's Michelle Bachmann voting against a 500 million spending cut to the Afghanistan Infrastrucure Fund. So much for Bachmann being a fiscal conservative. Conservatives now support overseas stimulus spending.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll047.xml
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:7:./temp/~bdel3e::

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

You sure it wasnt' related to the breastfeeding provisions in Obamacare? The ones that require businesses to set aside a seperate room and designate it just for employees to pump breastmilk?

Edit: Nevermind, found it.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/16/michele-bachmann-slams-michelle-obama-over-breastfeeding-does-s/



Bachmann is a moron, I'd support that tax break, hell I'd support most any tax break.

The problem is those aren't really tax breaks. It merely shifts the money stolen from you to a private company and you get something in return, which all private entities that sell these goods love because it is funnelling money directly to them. A tax break means giving your money back to you, not telling you, buy this and we'll cut that amount off your tax bill. That's called social engineering and corporatism. Now, having said that...I'd probably support it because at least you are getting *something* back.

Edit: Just read the article and she brought that up...Who coulda figured I'd agree with Michelle Bachmann on something lolz.

 

[dean.engelhardt]

She truly is a moron.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol..._first_lady_michelle_obama_over_breastfe.html

It's a freaking tax break via categorization as a medical device...and she's claiming that the gov't wants to "buy" mothers a breast pump. My only complaint about Michelle Obama's anti-obesity crap is that she calls it a "national security" issue--and that she wants more skinny Americans for the meat-grinder, which is something that Bachmann obviously supports.

Childhood obesity as a national security issue! We need to make a new federal department, hire thousands of federal works, and have them show each other PowerPoint charts on the ill effects of childhood obesity. While we are at it, let’s increase subsidies to corn growers so we have more cheap HFCS in our food.

See Bachmann, you can challenge Obama's statement without pissing of every women in America.

 

[Original_Intent]

So, it's a national security issue because we need more healthy young men and women to draft into the military to fight the Islamofascists who hate us for our freedoms!

 

[sailingaway]

I think we all have to accept one serious flaw of Ron Paul: He endorses people who come nowhere near to being as good as they should be...we learned this the hard way in 2008.

The lesson I took away from this is to do the vetting of a candidate here or on your own. RP is a human, flawed individual and he does not make the best decisions in this realm...something we'll have to realize, or keep being disappointed. Of course, it's great to have their answers to the CfL surveys so we can hold their lies up to the light of day, as I did with my congressjerk who stated on the survey that he would NOT vote for the Patriot Act--then, of course, did.

To be fair to Ron, I think he is really trying to build up C4L as a tool to be used in elections generally. So he was rewarding people who answered the questions correctly, in order to inspire people to answer the questions, period.

Having said that, I agree we should vet our own candidates, and that his endorsement is more of a reason to look into them. I doubt he'd do less than endorse the best in a race, but that doesn't mean they are good enough to get full bore support which takes effort from other liberty races.

 

[sailingaway]

I know RP supports her, but she is one of the most gullible, stupid politicians I've seen. I heard that she is attacking Michelle Obama for supporting breastfeeding. She fell for the $600M Obama trip in a big way. I really wonder how she got her law degree.

You have to ask why Ron supported her. She was big in spreading the audit the fed issue, as much as any congressman besides Grayson. If he hadn't supported her, how much less weight might others throw behind his views? And she was running against a Dem who was pro Obamacare, etc.

 

[dean.engelhardt]

You have to ask why Ron supported her. She was big in spreading the audit the fed issue, as much as any congressman besides Grayson. If he hadn't supported her, how much less weight might others throw behind his views? And she was running against a Dem who was pro Obamacare, etc.

Understand what you are saying about lesser of two evils. She may be doing lots less damage than her opponent would be doing. I just wish she would confer with RP more before voting or talking to the media. Acting so stupid reflects on the people she says she represents.

 

[sailingaway]

Understand what you are saying about lesser of two evils. She may be doing lots less damage than her opponent would be doing. I just wish she would confer with RP more before voting or talking to the media. Acting so stupid reflects on the people she says she represents.

Do NOT get me wrong. This vote shows who she is, imho.

People have different 'primary issues' for why they are Paul supporters. Civil liberties and restoration of natural rights protected in the Constitution are one of my primary issues.

 

[Rothbardian Girl]

Well, this seals it. She has to go out during the next election. Her constituents have to hold her accountable.
I agree with just about everyone else in this thread.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

So no one here agrees with her that tax deductions are social engineering?

 

[Rothbardian Girl]

So no one here agrees with her that tax deductions are social engineering?

Yes, I do agree with her on that point (and consequently you as well), but that doesn't necessarily mean I would want to see her continuing to represent the Tea Party. I just think she got it completely wrong here and there's no convincing people like her - they have to do the research for themselves. Obviously she hasn't taken that step yet.