Taking things from white people

Anti Federalist said:
Is this an untrue statement:



Please justify your answer.



It is not, I will never agree that it is, and I will do everything in my power not to have it changed or sanitize it or change the name of the Key bridge in Baltimore for that matter.

I'm sorry you do not see it that way.

You do not have the right to erase my history because of it.



Swordsmyth can speak for himself.



And? I want to be accurate. Scoffing at the idea the roads were not built to keep certain people out was stupid. Of course they were, especially under Robert Moses reign.

But here's the real racist rub: were the beaches and parks and picnic areas nicer, cleaner, more crime free and conducive to family outings then or now?



So, as always, the solution is more money.

In my lifetime, over $15 trillion has been spent on "investing in communities", with the result, 60 years later, of bum camps on every major city street, 100,000 dead every year from overdoses, human $#@! so thick in places in San Fran you can't walk on the street and on and on and on and Jesus Christ Almighty on and on.



Disingenuous hogwash.

Of course whites were the greatest numbers of people on welfare during the New Deal.

In 1940, at the end of the Depression and most of the "New Deal", whites were 90 percent of the US population.

Government welfare is government welfare. There is no restructuring it to be anything else.

Maybe, just maybe, white people used to be less inclined to remain on it all their lives, and their children's lives and their grandchildren's lives



All that means is that the Osage did not defend themselves any better the second time their lands were being conquered, than the first time.

Guess what, I do not want to become the Osage.



And in the day of the Osage in the midwest, they were powerful warriors, and feared by the tribes around them. They made war and conquered other tribes and enslaved their captives without any thought of the rights of man, or property rights or mineral rights.

White people brought that, and they are worthwhile concepts, even if defended by a creep like Hoover.



Being part of group is not a weakness.

A people united, bound in ethnicity and language and shared history and common ties and religion, striving for a common goal, is perhaps the most powerful natural force on earth.

I have traveled far and come back to my political roots.

The United States is a "proposition nation", based on a political screed and nothing else.

That proposition has now been discarded, mostly because "racism".

I'm just trying now to carve out a homeland before my people get genocided.

“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

Because I like and respect you, I am sorry that you think all of this is nothing but a "racist" screed.

If it was anybody else, I would not care in the least because "yer a racist" has no meaning to me anymore.

And it's not going to change my mind.
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You must spread some reputation around....
 
Anti Federalist said:
Is this an untrue statement:
There is not a day that goes by where there are not multiple instances, far beyond what the population/ratio would suggest, of rape, murder, brawling, theft or just random abuse of some white person, by blacks​
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As a housekeeping matter PLEASE LEARN HOW TO USE THE INDENT TAG! When you put a quote within a quote the system erases the multiple embedded quote.

That pet peeve out of the way I already addressed this by pointing out that 1) the statistics are skewed bullshyt and 2) based on facts you've already conceded the black community is screwed up because of policy decisions made by racist white politicians. Years ago the Irish were looked at exactly as blacks are by you today. Same with the Italians. What happened? The Federal Government invested in those communities in ways that it NEVER invested in black communities. And when black communities got too "big for their britches" racist white mobs more than once burned the down.

Please justify your answer.



It is not, I will never agree that it is, and I will do everything in my power not to have it changed or sanitize it or change the name of the Key bridge in Baltimore for that matter.

I'm sorry you do not see it that way.

You do not have the right to erase my history because of it.
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I'm NOT going to let you get away with the BULLSHYT of ignoring what I actually said then putting words in my mouth for what I didn't. Here's what you ignored.

You accepting Dr. Paul being right about systematic racism when it comes to drug arrests, prosecution and sentencing but somehow you have it in your mind that this is on only area that's fvcked up. You mentioned acptulsa? Guess what he agreed with me on? White women falsely accusing black men of rape is part of the well known fabric of American history.

Does it burn you up that Ron Paul himself pointed out the fact that blacks, who use drugs at the same rate as whites, are arrested at a higher rate, prosecuted at a higher rate when arrested, convicted at a higher rate when prosecuted and served longer sentences when convicted. If you have more than two brain cells you know that if the stats are skewed for one type of crime they are most likely skewed for other types of crime. But you ignored that and instead decided to focus on a fvcking bridge. The very idea of "erasing history" is itself bullshyt. Did the history of Stalin and Lenin get erased when their statutes were torn down? Nope.

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But secondly I NEVER ADVOCATED CHANGING THE NAME OF THAT BRIDGE AND YOU KNOW IT! IT IS DISHONEST OF YOU TO NOW CLAIM OR INSINUATE OTHERWISE! Have whatever opinion you want but don't smear me with your lies or insinuations in the process. Again, I didn't even KNOW about the racist second verse until Ben Swann. I am not advocating that the National Anthem be changed. I just can't bring myself to respect it anymore. That's my right just like your wanting the bridge name to remain is your right. And if you want to sing the second verse you can. If you want to wear a white sheet with eyes cut out you can do that too. If's your legal right as an American to think whatever it is you want to think, say whatever you want to say as long as it's not libel or inciting to actual criminal activity (you can say the election was stolen, but you can't say go murder this person and yes I know the "deep state" is trying to pretend you can't say the former but can say the latter as long as the person you want murdered is a conservative), and it's my right to feel what I want to feel and say what I want to say about that.

And? I want to be accurate. Scoffing at the idea the roads were not built to keep certain people out was stupid. Of course they were, especially under Robert Moses reign.

But here's the real racist rub: were the beaches and parks and picnic areas nicer, cleaner, more crime free and conducive to family outings then or now?
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That's a bullshyt question. But let's answer it. Prior to Robert Moses fvcking up those communities the beaches and parks and picnic areas were indeed nicer, cleaner, more crime free and conducive to family outings. The "separation" you're always blabbering about caused the problem. Yeah...you walked right into that one.

So, as always, the solution is more money.

In my lifetime, over $15 trillion has been spent on "investing in communities", with the result, 60 years later, of bum camps on every major city street, 100,000 dead every year from overdoses, human $#@! so thick in places in San Fran you can't walk on the street and on and on and on and Jesus Christ Almighty on and on.
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:rolleyes: Disingenuous bullshyt answer and you know it. This is investing in communities.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-did-fdrs-new-deal-harm-blacks

And ^that didn't happen to black communities. Fvcking up a community, as you admit Robert Moses did, and then giving welfare to everyone poor (more whites get more welfare than blacks overall but blacks disproportionately get more because of more poverty which was created by people like Robert Moses) is not the same as investing in communities. And note I gave you an example of where the investment WORKED and where it did cost a FVCKING DIME OF GOVERNMENT MONEY and instead of doing what any RATIONAL person would do and say "Hey that's great! I'm glad to see private charity accomplishing something good" you decide to be an ass for no apparent reason. Seriously, why are you bitching about what some other person voluntarily did with his money?

Disingenuous hogwash.

Of course whites were the greatest numbers of people on welfare during the New Deal.

In 1940, at the end of the Depression and most of the "New Deal", whites were 90 percent of the US population.

Government welfare is government welfare. There is no restructuring it to be anything else.
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Are you really that ignorant of U.S. history? BLACKS WERE SYSTEMATICALLY CUT OUT OF THE NEW DEAL!

https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-did-fdrs-new-deal-harm-blacks


Maybe, just maybe, white people used to be less inclined to remain on it all their lives, and their children's lives and their grandchildren's lives
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Maybe, just maybe, you will actually learn to read real history instead of going off you your bullshyt fantasies.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-did-fdrs-new-deal-harm-blacks


All that means is that the Osage did not defend themselves any better the second time their lands were being conquered, than the first time.

Guess what, I do not want to become the Osage.
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Right. When shown indisputable evidence of oppression you're just like "Well it sucks to be them." Whatever dude.
Being part of group is not a weakness.
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I never said it was. But obsessing over race like you do is a form of OCD. Get help.

And it's not going to change my mind.
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I'm not even trying to change your mind. I know it's reprobate on this issue. I pointed out some counter-facts to your racist bullshyt thread. Sorry / not sorry for pissing in your Cheerios. When the feds print more money to rebuilt the Francis Scott Key bridge I will not oppose you going there to protest to keep the same name.
 
jmdrake said:
I never said it was. But obsessing over race like you do is a form of OCD. Get help.
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I found only one thing to respond to in a reply laced with calumny, vitriol and personal attacks.

I did not start this war.

Your people did, along with white Marxists.

If you think I'm going to just stand around, herp a derping like most weak idiot whites do when confronted with this subject, while every day, universities and the Marxist media organs and government mouthpieces call for my outright extermination, well, brother, you have rocks in your head.

The title of this thread comes from a black intellectual who wrote that the only solution, the final solution, was take everything from me.

Stop pointing the finger at me, for simply bringing up what is happening all around us, and start pointing the finger at your people, and at those who claim to speak for you, who are saying this shit.

In the meantime, you have options to shut me up, if you feel so strongly about this.

Petition the mods to ban me, or delete this thread or both.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
I did not star this war.
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I'm just sorry it degenerated to this. :(

From my perspective, this is a lesson in collectivization by identity. I don't consider people "my" people just because they share my skin color - there are lots of horrible, despicable people who share my skin color and lineage. LOTS of them! And I don't lump people of other races together based on their identity, either. It's not cool when it's done to me, and it wouldn't be cool if I would do it to anyone else.

Choices. Character. Values. These are what people unique. And when you find people who share those things with you, it's silly to get caught up in this weird association game of "your" people vs. "my" people.
 
Anti Federalist said:
I found only one thing to respond to in a reply laced with calumny, vitriol and personal attacks.

I did not star this war.

Your people did, along with white Marxists.

If you think I'm going to just stand around, herp a derping like most weak idiot whites do when confronted with this subject, while every day, universities and the Marxist media organs and government mouthpieces call for my outright extermination, well, brother, you have rocks in your head.

The title of this thread comes from a black intellectual who wrote that the only solution, the final solution, was take everything from me.

Stop pointing the finger at me, for simply bringing up what is happening all around us, and start pointing the finger at your people, and at those who claim to speak for you, who are saying this $#@!.

In the meantime, you have options to shut me up, if you feel so strongly about this.

Petition the mods to ban me, or delete this thread or both.
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I've never petitioned the mods to ban anyone. More dishonest vitriol and attacks from you and your arguing through projection You implied that I somehow was trying to "erase your history" and I'm not going to let you walk away from your bullshyt by you claiming that I am somehow attacking you. I can abide anything but dishonesty. I'll take an honest racist over a dishonest person who isn't. And "my people" started this "war?" How exactly? We forced "your people" to do the trans Atlantic slave trade? We forced "your people" to do ethnic cleansing of prosperous black communities inside the United States after slavery was over? Hell, I didn't even start this thread. I don't make it a point to continually talk about race relations in this country. You are the one doing that shyt! On the one hand you're like "Black people should stop talking about about race" and they you create a thread specifically to talk about race and you don't see how counterproductive that is to your own stated goals? Seriously? And then you can't actually deal with real facts that go against your narrative like the fact that whites disproportionately benefited from the New Deal! Not "they were 90% so they got 90% of the benefit but racism, yes that actually exists, prevented blacks who qualified for things like the G.I. Bill from fully participating in it. So capitalist blacks who went off to war to defend Europe from racist ass national socialists white people[/b] came back to America and tried, like their white counterparts, to get the same government backed G.I. Bill loans their white counterparts were getting and couldn't get it because they had to deal with racist banks. Those are facts that any honest history, liberal or conservative, will tell you. You yourself admitted the racist damage to black communities caused by government tyranny in the form of Robert Moses using urban renewal to split up communities! And yet, for some illogical reason, you want to blame the communities for the effect caused by Robert Moses? You're not even close to being intellectually consistent. No, I don't have to have you "banned" or the thread "deleted" or whatever. I can use your own words to show how full of crap you are on this issue. You're great on everything else. But on this issue your own words destroy your own argument.

/rant

One more thing. Racist immigration policy against the Chinese led to the creation of the Mexican drug cartels.



Unintended consequences of stupidity. And why were these Chinese immigrants leaving China in the first place? Could the opium wars where the U.S. and Britain forced China to accept more imports of a drug that was fvcking up the Chinese population have anything to do with that?



So who actually created this "war" you speak of? Not my people. Not the "Marxists" either.
 
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CaptUSA said:
I'm just sorry it degenerated to this. :(

From my perspective, this is a lesson in collectivization by identity. I don't consider people "my" people just because they share my skin color - there are lots of horrible, despicable people who share my skin color and lineage. LOTS of them! And I don't lump people of other races together based on their identity, either. It's not cool when it's done to me, and it wouldn't be cool if I would do it to anyone else.

Choices. Character. Values. These are what people unique. And when you find people who share those things with you, it's silly to get caught up in this weird association game of "your" people vs. "my" people.
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jmdrake said:
I've never petitioned the mods to ban anyone.
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I never said you did...stop complaining about words I supposedly put in your mouth and pay attention to what I actually said:

In the meantime, you have options to shut me up, if you feel so strongly about this.

Petition the mods to ban me, or delete this thread or both.
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You then said:

You implied that I somehow was trying to "erase your history" and I'm not going to let you walk away from your bullshyt by you claiming that I am somehow attacking you.
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People who claim to speak for you say that.
 
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On the issue of crime, fine, rebut my comments.

Prove me wrong.

By my reckoning, there were 6 mass shootings just this past weekend in black communities.

Whites are over three times the population of blacks.

So, let's make it easy and just say show me 12 mass shootings by whites that occurred over last weekend.
 
CaptUSA said:
I'm just sorry it degenerated to this. :(

From my perspective, this is a lesson in collectivization by identity. I don't consider people "my" people just because they share my skin color - there are lots of horrible, despicable people who share my skin color and lineage. LOTS of them! And I don't lump people of other races together based on their identity, either. It's not cool when it's done to me, and it wouldn't be cool if I would do it to anyone else.

Choices. Character. Values. These are what people unique. And when you find people who share those things with you, it's silly to get caught up in this weird association game of "your" people vs. "my" people.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again.
 
CaptUSA said:
From my perspective, this is a lesson in collectivization by identity. I don't consider people "my" people just because they share my skin color - there are lots of horrible, despicable people who share my skin color and lineage. LOTS of them! And I don't lump people of other races together based on their identity, either. It's not cool when it's done to me, and it wouldn't be cool if I would do it to anyone else.

Choices. Character. Values. These are what people unique. And when you find people who share those things with you, it's silly to get caught up in this weird association game of "your" people vs. "my" people.
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I'd be delighted to be the only white guy in a country full of Thomas Sowells.

https://twitter.com/jeremykauffman/status/1787473441110581493
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