Stefan Molyneux To Ron Paul Supporters: I'm Sorry [vid]

[Travlyr]

Poor, poor Trav. Those horrible, evil an-caps just don't like you. I can't for the life of me imagine why.

Oh, by the way. Have you threatened to "throat punch" anyone around here lately? Just curious.

Here is the thing that you jackasses can't understand. There is no need to degrade another human being. You do it because you feel like you can get away with it without repercussion. Not everyone is like me and will throat punch you for it, but I'll do it in a heartbeat. Fortunately for you... I'll never meet you or ProIndividual. But if I ever do... expect it. Jackasses who maliciously misrepresent another human being deserve it.

 

[CCTelander]

Here is the thing that you jackasses can't understand. There is no need to degrade another human being. You do it because you feel like you can get away with it without repercussion. Not everyone is like me and will throat punch you for it, but I'll do it in a heartbeat. Fortunately for you... I'll never meet you or ProIndividual. But if I ever do... expect it. Jackasses who maliciously misrepresent another human being deserve it.

Sadly for your case, I haven't misrepresented anyone, maliciously or otherwise. Nor have I "degraded" anyone. I've simply, on occasion, pointed out the fallacies in your arguments. Any degradation that may have occurred was completely your own doing.

On the other hand, you most certainly have now threatened me with physical violence. Over a debate on a message board.

Get help. Please. If not for yourself, for those who may care about you in real life. Seriously.

 

[Travlyr]

Sadly for your case, I haven't misrepresented anyone, maliciously or otherwise. Nor have I "degraded" anyone. I've simply pointed out the fallacies in your arguments. Any degradation that may have occurred was completely your own doing.

On the other hand, you most certainly have now threatened me with physical violence. Over a debate on a message board.

Get help. Please. If not for yourself, for those who may care about you in real life. Seriously.

Fuck you Chris. You are a lying sack of shit. Sadly for you. Don't ever meet me in the street. Don't ever misrepresent me ... ever again, online or off line. Seriously. Treat your fellow human beings as equals.. not as subordinates.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I've read nearly all your posts since Dec 09. You have nothing to offer me except 'hugs' and Russian interpretation. That might come in useful some day... but don't bother hugging me. Please. I hug girls, women, and ladies not boys unless they are my grandsons.

If you read that many of my posts and haven't found anything of value other than that, you either weren't paying attention or value irrelevant things (perhaps too busy with circle jerks to seriously consider opposing views?). Even my long time sparring buddies like Theo know better.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Fuck you Chris. You are a lying sack of shit. Sadly for you. Don't ever meet me in the street. Don't ever misrepresent me ... ever again, online or off line. Seriously. Treat your fellow human beings as equals.. not as subordinates.

You ought to take your own advice.

 

[CCTelander]

Fuck you Chris. You are a lying sack of shit. Sadly for you. Don't ever meet me in the street. Don't ever misrepresent me ... ever again, online or off line. Seriously. Treat your fellow human beings as equals.. not as subordinates.

By all means, show me precisely where it is you think I've misrepresented you. Otherwise you're just making false accusations.

 

[CCTelander]

You ought to take your own advice.

Really. Name calling, false accusations, threatening others with physical violence. His behavior is hardly exemplary tonight, I'd opine.

 

[Travlyr]

Sadly for your case, I haven't misrepresented anyone, maliciously or otherwise. Nor have I "degraded" anyone. I've simply, on occasion, pointed out the fallacies in your arguments. Any degradation that may have occurred was completely your own doing.

On the other hand, you most certainly have now threatened me with physical violence. Over a debate on a message board.

Get help. Please. If not for yourself, for those who may care about you in real life. Seriously.

Chris, you don't have to degrade others to live your life. You really don't.

 

[kylejack]

Chris, you don't have to degrade others to live your life. You really don't.

You're the one handing out eff yous.

 

[Travlyr]

You're the one handing out eff yous.

In defense.

 

[CCTelander]

Chris, you don't have to degrade others to live your life. You really don't.

Trav, I don't see anywhere that I have done any such thing. I certainly have no intention of doing so. My ONLY intention is to expose the fallacious nature of your arguments. That's it. YOUR ARGUMENTS. Seems to me that you're identifying with them just a bit too much, and taking things WAY TOO personally.

Step back. Take a breather. You'll feel better. You're certainly doing neither yourself nor your position any favors by what you've been posting here tonight.

 

[Travlyr]

Trav, I don't see anywhere that I have done any such thing. I certainly have no intention of doing so. My ONLY intention is to expose the fallacious nature of your arguments. That's it. YOUR ARGUMENTS. Seems to me that you're identifying with them just a bit too much, and taking things WAY TOO personally.

Step back. Take a breather. You'll feel better. You're certainly doing neither yourself nor your position any favors by what you've been posting here tonight.

Blow hard.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

In defense.

How is such a thing "defensive"? It's the most base, irrational response you could provide outside of physical violence. When you have to resort to such tactics, you might as well concede that you've lost-as you've admitted that you can't succeed using the tools of rational debate.

 

[kylejack]

1st amendment. Online. LMFAO. Online?

Yes, even on the inkernets.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Unless what? They are the SWAT team? Grow up HB.

WTF is this supposed to mean? It has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I suggest you grow up. You're the one acting like a petty child here. You remind me of this fella:

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

In the interest of clarity, I am the moderator who banned Travlyr. He was banned for making threats of violence to other members which is, needless to say, a very serious violation of forum guidelines. His ban was set for 3 days and hopefully that will give all parties involved time to cool down and return to normal.

 

[robert68]

Why is it wrong to make someone feel bad?

What meaning are you giving the word "wrong" here?

 

[green73]

Trav, check yourself into a hospital before you wind up on the evening news.

 

[Sola_Fide]

What meaning are you giving the word "wrong" here?

lol...what meaning am I trying to give to "wrong". What do you think?

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Anyone who has followed my posts in this thread can see that I have shown that atheists cannot answer as to why something is morally wrong. A few honest ones in this thread, like Mczerone, have admitted it, and I can at least respect the honesty.

But the point is: the high moral positions of property, honesty in money, anti-coercion, etc. make no sense in a worldview that can't declare anything universally morally right or wrong.. I have no problems as a Christian being against impositions of my property, but that is because I have a worldview which answers why theft is wrong.. Atheistic worldviews do not have that. This is why I laugh at the Stefan Molyneux's of the world. Completely inconsistent...

 

[Sola_Fide]

the better question is- why would such an act make you feel something that we commonly describe as negative, bad, angry, etc. not an argument on words, but leading you to something that is innate in your being.

Why is it wrong to make someone feel contrary to what is innate in their being?

If you want to keep going, we can go for as long as you want. I promise, you will never get out of your subjectivity. You will never be able to say something is morally wrong. But, keep trying...