Start your new year learning 'The Secret'.

[Deborah K]

Natural Citizen, the documentary mentions that we're all connected on a cellular level. Several of the people interviewed are physicists of one sort or another.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Natural Citizen, the documentary mentions that we're all connected on a cellular level. Several of the people interviewed are physicists of one sort or another.

Yep. I assumed that there were some physicists in that video some place. I didn't watch it, to be fair, but knew what the subject matter was. There is such a tremendous opportunity for the religious and scientific community to come together. It's unfortunate.

My old signature line said that the beauty of a living thing is not the atoms that go into it but the way those atoms are put together. It's true.

Deborah, you're good energy. I've always enjoyed your postings. Good luck to you. I've decided that it's time to redirect my efforts among like minds as it is. The People aren't the same cast of characters as in the days of our founders and think it's more practical to align with projects conforming to the interest of the living breathing folks as opposed to those whose birth came as a result of a pen stroke and a few million dollars.

 

[Deborah K]

Yep. I assumed that there were some physicists in that video some place. I didn't watch it, to be fair, but knew what the subject matter was. There is such a tremendous opportunity for the religious and scientific community to come together. It's unfortunate.

I think this video makes a fair attempt at it. And I believe it's worth my while to continue to strive for it.

My old signature line said that the beauty of a living thing is not the atoms that go into it but the way those atoms are put together. It's true.

I agree.

Deborah, you're good energy. I've always enjoyed your postings. Good luck to you. I've decided that it's time to redirect my efforts among like minds as it is. The People aren't the same cast of characters as in the days of our founders and think it's more practical to align with projects conforming to the interest of the living breathing folks as opposed to those whose birth came as a result of a pen stroke and a few million dollars.

Thank you for that. Good luck to you too.
Americans are not the same people they were during the founding of this nation, I agree. It is because of the incremental indoctrination of each generation through the media and the public education systems. Un-doing such a travesty is complicated - especially when the people who we believe feel mostly the way we do, also seem to buckle under the pressure of conforming to the ways of the world thinking that it's our only hope. It's difficult breaking through 'conventional wisdom'.

I'm not sure what you mean by: "... as opposed to those whose birth came as a result of a pen stroke and a few million dollars." Will you elaborate?

 

[Sanguine]

I think this may be too advanced for you.

Want to talk about complicated? The human body and its actions are basically a massive series of chemical and reactions stemming from input from external phenomena, resulting in physical responses (be it thought or action). Thinking positively doesn't magically change bills to cheques, and the notion defies the very reality that people work primarily for their self-interests.

That's the basic principles of neuroscience, physics, and sociology slapping you right in the face. Please, do explain how this isn't magic, instead of pretentiously telling me that this is supposedly "too complicated" for me.

 

[green73]

Want to talk about complicated? The human body and its actions are basically a massive series of chemical and reactions stemming from input from external phenomena, resulting in physical responses (be it thought or action). Thinking positively doesn't magically change bills to cheques, and the notion defies the very reality that people work primarily for their self-interests.

That's the basic principles of neuroscience, physics, and sociology slapping you right in the face. Please, do explain how this isn't magic, instead of pretentiously telling me that this is supposedly "too complicated" for me.

People from time immemorial have referred to things they don't understand as magic. Truth is, what mankind knows about the reality of things most likely could only fill a thimble in an ocean. But flame on like every jackass in history who marks their ignorance with loud derision.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

How about we do an experiment, right here in this thread?

This sure would mean a lot to me if anybody who was interested could participate.

New age folks tend to be into numerology and such. On 11/11/11 I attended a new age festival and somebody sitting next to me got up from their chair and somebody else noticed that they had left exactly $0.11 (one dime & one penny) right on the chair. I took a picture of it for evidence. I also had a very enlightening weekend. The #1 goal in my life at the time was to find a romantic partner as I had lacked one for some time. That was pretty much the entire focus of my life.

2 weeks later I invited a girl over and we ended up hooking up that night. The next morning after she left, I looked on my chair where she had left all her stuff and to my surprise she had forgotten a pair of pink socks along with, you got it, $0.11 (one dime & one penny). I took another picture for evidence.

We ended up falling in love, she moved in with me and the next two years were the best two years of my life. They weren't a perfect, she isn't perfect and neither am I, but for some reason I feel like we belong together and were meant for each other. I bought her a puppy and we have considered him our 'son' and 'raised him' together and he is the cutest and one of the happiest, loving little dogs in the whole world.

Two months ago we were both completely in love. We had moved into our own place from living with roommates previously. She had professed her undying love to me and me to her in early November. That was when something happened which may or may not have had a significant impact on the rest of our lives. Her doctor told her that they no longer manufactured her birth control and that they would have to put her on a new type of birth control.

In less than two weeks after switching birth control she decided that she 'wanted to see other people' and broke up with me. We didn't have any fights, it just came out of nowhere. We never celebrated our 2 year anniversary. We still live together but she is planning on moving out and already seeing somebody else. This 'somebody else' is unemployed, lives in a trailer next to his parents house and on top of that he has already totalled her car after borrowing it because his car ran out of gas. In the mean time, I am still madly in love with this girl and will do anything to get her back, but I really just don't know what to do. This whole thing is like watching a car accident in slow motion and I can't stop it from happening. Not only am I losing the woman of my life, but I see the person I care most about making horrible decisions.

I have been trying to use the concepts I learned prior to going out with her to get her back and so far no luck.

Maybe it's time to try increasing the numbers.

So as an experiment -

Visualize my soul mate falling back in love with me - meditate - send positive energy into the universe.

I will try and keep you guys up to date if it works out.

Boot her ass out and improve your lot in life.

If you want to subsidize her fucking another man, that's on you. But you should probably see a therapist if that's what you really want to do, as you have some sort of unresolved mental trauma in your life.

 

[CaptUSA]

I just wanted to add this to the thread.

These ideas have been around forever. There is most definitely something to this.

 

[Sanguine]

People from time immemorial have referred to things they don't understand as magic. Truth is, what mankind knows about the reality of things most likely could only fill a thimble in an ocean. But flame on like every jackass in history who marks their ignorance with loud derision.

And you aren't touting what anyone knows, you're touting something that lacks any sort of real proof. Abusing the agnostic position doesn't work when we do have some understanding of the world based upon our experiences and observations. When you make a claim like that, you better have some good reasoning to it, or your claim is unsubstantiated.

 

[green73]

And you aren't touting what anyone knows, you're touting something that lacks any sort of real proof. Abusing the agnostic position doesn't work when we do have some understanding of the world based upon our experiences and observations. When you make a claim like that, you better have some good reasoning to it, or your claim is unsubstantiated.

What claim would that be?

 

[Sanguine]

What claim would that be?

You have to claim that we don't know about it, and you would have to do so by flaws in my means to reach the conclusion that "the law of attraction" isn't real.

 

[green73]

You have to claim that we don't know about it, and you would have to do so by flaws in my means to reach the conclusion that "the law of attraction" isn't real.

 

[Sanguine]

I typo'd. The sentence was supposed to read "You have to prove your claim that we don't know about it..."

or are you just surprised that I demanded for you to actually refute me?

 

[Zeeder]

The law of attracton is definetly real. Meditation, for instance, has been proven to lower blood pressure and reduce stress. (This is part of most law of attraction books I have read). Those who reduce stress are far more likely to be healthy. Those who are positive are alot more fun to be around than those that are negative. Negative people attract other negative people, Do you want to be around negative people? Not me.

And if your a positive person attracting other positive people, then are you more likely to be successful? Of course.

The quantum physics part is harder to understand. Everything is energy at it's core. And since your thoughts are electric energy. Then positive thoughts attract other positive energy. You are like an antennae. In physics observing something changes it and bla bla bla. Your subconscious also plays a major role in LOA. The way you approach problems is determined by it. And what your subconscious beliefs, it will attempt to make true, regardless of whether it's good or bad.

Why were you orginally attracted to Ron Paul? He is a positive guy. What he says is right. You fell it. you know it. He attracted other people like him.
Statist are negative people. They attract misery. The the whole world is a worse place because of them. And Unfortunetly they are a vast majority. Some of them are here on this board. You can feel them everytime they post.

 

[Deborah K]

Want to talk about complicated? The human body and its actions are basically a massive series of chemical and reactions stemming from input from external phenomena, resulting in physical responses (be it thought or action). Thinking positively doesn't magically change bills to cheques, and the notion defies the very reality that people work primarily for their self-interests.

That's the basic principles of neuroscience, physics, and sociology slapping you right in the face. Please, do explain how this isn't magic, instead of pretentiously telling me that this is supposedly "too complicated" for me.

Here are some indisputable facts for you:

1. The entire Universe and everything in it is made up of energy.

2. Every thought has a frequency, you can measure a thought. Your thoughts are emitting a magnetic frequency.

3. The field of psychology took the visualization process that was used in the Apollo program and instituted it during the 80s and 90s into the Olympic program and named it ‘Visual Motor Rehearsal’. They then took Olympic track and field athletes and hooked them up to bio-feedback machines and had them running their events in their minds. The same muscles fired in the same sequence in their minds as on the field. The mind cannot distinguish between visualization and reality. Tiger Woods and many other professional athletes use this form of training.

4. In medical science, they are beginning to understand the degree to which thoughts and emotions actually determine the physical substance, structure, and functions of our bodies. Consider the placebo effect. Consider the cliché: mind over matter.

5. Science has learned that the human mind is the biggest factor in healing.

6. The law of attraction has been well known for thousands of years. It’s found in the Bible, and every well-known philosopher has taught on it. Consider Plato for example. Inventors, athletes, scientists, writers, composers, and on and on throughout history have used the law of attraction and talked about it.

7. The law of attraction manifests the things you are thinking and feeling, whether your thoughts are good or bad, and whether you believe it or not. Your entire life is a result of what your thoughts and feelings have attracted into it. "Whether you think you can or you can't - either way you are right." Henry Ford

 

[green73]

I typo'd. The sentence was supposed to read "You have to prove your claim that we don't know about it..."

or are you just surprised that I demanded for you to actually refute me?

Refute what? You seem to think, like most have done throughout history, that Man has solved all the mysteries of the universe, that He mostly understands it all and the species is currently at its zenith. I don't need to refute that; that you are wrong is self-evident.

We are only at the dawn of realizing that there are at least 11 dimensions, but can't yet even prove it. I'd say, Man today is like a two-dimensional ant trying to comprehend 3-D.

 

[green73]

It seems this bitcoin miner uses the law of attraction:

Joel Flickinger’s two-bedroom home in the hills above Oakland, Calif., hums with custom-built computing gear. Just inside the front door, in a room anyone else might use as a den, he’s placed a desk next to a fireplace that supports a massive monitor, with cables snaking right and left toward two computers, each about the size of a case of beer. Flickinger has spent more than $20,000 on these rigs and on a slower model that runs from the basement. They operate continuously, cranking out enough heat to warm the house and racking up $400 a month in electric bills. There isn’t much by way of décor, other than handwritten inspirational Post-it notes:

“I make money easily,” one reads.

“Money flows to me.”

“I am a money magnet.”

Flickinger, 37, a software engineer and IT consultant by trade, doesn’t leave the house much these days. He’s a full-time Bitcoin miner.

cont.
http://www.businessweek.com/article...ps-gear-computing-groups-competition-heats-up

 

[Deborah K]

Let's debate this some more. I've been applying it and have noticed significant change happening. I really do believe that we can apply this not only in our personal lives, but on a larger scale....I believe we can apply this to the cause of liberty. But first, we probably need to get past the naysayers and skeptics so bring it.....

 

[mczerone]

Let's debate this some more. I've been applying it and have noticed significant change happening. I really do believe that we can apply this not only in our personal lives, but on a larger scale....I believe we can apply this to the cause of liberty. But first, we probably need to get past the naysayers and skeptics so bring it.....

Great, let's set out realistic goals, plan to reach them, and then do things according to that plan.

There's no "energy" or "attraction" at play, any success is due simply to human nature. That's where you are more likely to hit a target you're aiming at, rather than just "hoping" for some ill-defined "success" or aimlessly meandering through life.

 

[Deborah K]

Great, let's set out realistic goals, plan to reach them, and then do things according to that plan.

There's no "energy" or "attraction" at play, any success is due simply to human nature. That's where you are more likely to hit a target you're aiming at, rather than just "hoping" for some ill-defined "success" or aimlessly meandering through life.

The law of attraction is indeed at play. ".....Hoping for some ill-defined success or aimlessly meandering through life" is not a good plan at all, and will never work. If that is what you think defines the Law of Attraction, then please research it before you render an opinion.

 

[mczerone]

The law of attraction is indeed at play. ".....Hoping for some ill-defined success or aimlessly meandering through life" is not a good plan at all, and will never work. If that is what you think defines the Law of Attraction, then please research it before you render an opinion.

You misunderstand.

I'm saying that the ONLY value of "the secret" or "the law of attraction" is that it gets people to clarify their real goals and work toward really achieving them. You don't need any silly "energy" hocum.