‘Spell casting’ Kentucky woman arrested for cooking human body parts in a pot

[TheTexan]

[MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] is worse than the average progressive. Just a straight up liar at this point.

I don't see where he lied about anything. He said Haitians eat cats in their culture, which is true. He said Americans don't typically eat other people, which is also true.

I think his point is -- and I'm inclined to agree -- is that Haitian culture is generally incompatible with the culture he expects America to try to maintain.

Importing large numbers of them at a time is not good for our country regardless of whether or not they get caught eating cats.

 

[acptulsa]

I also find it interesting that you have a criterion for deportation that is based on religion alone without respect for where the person was born. This policy could result in those who go to the Bible to define the moral foundations of Christianity deporting all the Mormons and white nationalists.

The celebrity worshippers, too.

 

[jmdrake]

I don't see where he lied about anything. He said Haitians eat cats in their culture, which is true. He said Americans don't typically eat other people, which is also true.

I think his point is -- and I'm inclined to agree -- is that Haitian culture is generally incompatible with the culture he expects America to try to maintain.

Importing large numbers of them at a time is not good for our country regardless of whether or not they get caught eating cats.

He lied about the point that I was making. I said there not even been an accusation of any Haitian in American eating humans like there is of this Kentucky white woman who's now been arrested for cooking (and possibly eating though she could have fed human to her animals) humans. That he said something else true doesn't take away from his obvious lie that what I was saying somehow isn't true.

Edit: This is like someone who tries to deflect from Kamala Harris supporting mandatory buy backs of AR15s with saying "That's not true! She said she owns a gun!" Just because she said she owns a gun doesn't mean she never said she wanted to do a mandatory buy back of AR15s. You can't redeem a lie by making an additional true statement.

 

[TheTexan]

He lied about the point that I was making. I said there not even been an accusation of any Haitian in American eating humans like there is of this Kentucky white woman who's now been arrested for cooking (and possibly eating though she could have fed human to her animals) humans. That he said something else true doesn't take away from his obvious lie that what I was saying somehow isn't true.

You said

you only have rumours about Hatians eating cats

Which is, as SS pointed out, "completely false".

(I'm guessing you meant to say, rumors about Haitians eating cats in America, but that's not what you said)

 

[Swordsmyth]

It's absolutely true and you are nothing but a pathetic liar. There has not been a single report of a single Haitian in Springfield Ohio or anywhere in the United States eating anybody. Copium is a helluva drug. Whether they have been eating cats in Springfield (and that hasn't been proven) or eaten people anywher else doesn't make my true statement somehow false. But keep exposing yourself for who you really are.

You are the serial liar, I never said they were caught eating people here yet, I said it was a problem in Haiti much bigger than a single cherry picked example of an American who also needs to be removed from our society.

You aren't quoting my original post because it shows that you are lying:

Bunk.

The invaders are being privileged while the natives are being suppressed.
Haiti is overrun with voodoo and cannibals etc., we have caught them sacrificing animals here and if they haven't been caught doing cannibalism here yet that changes nothing about the odds of them doing it without being caught or at least having done it at home and being willing to do it here.

The government and the businesses lie about the natives in the negative and the imports in the positive and have been caught about it many times.

You are supporting the globalist Great replacement because of the skin color of the replacements.

The establishment want the imports because they can be subsidized with the tax dollars of the natives, paid slave wages, and used to supply votes for the uniparty (primarily demoncrat) politicians illegally and then legally if they can give them citizenship.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Is there not a religion that is not based on the bible? It seems like it is your religion or it is not religion.

There are many religions not based on the Bible, but American law and the Constitution is based on the Bible.
We will not be allowing the Thugees to murder travelers as sacrifices to Kali because of the 1stA.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Is that what Jesus did to the people who didn't believe in him?

I also find it interesting that you have a criterion for deportation that is based on religion alone without respect for where the person was born. This policy could result in those who go to the Bible to define the moral foundations of Christianity deporting all the Mormons and white nationalists.

Edit: That is, it could result in that if it weren't for the fact that that very thing would violate the moral foundations of Christianity that are set forth in the Bible.

Pure garbage, he drove the money changers out of the Temple using violence, and the Bible is full of the destruction of devil worshipers past and future.

Your pathetic atheist/satanist interpretation of Christianity falls as utterly flat as your understanding of the 1stA.

 

[jmdrake]

You said



Which is, as SS pointed out, "completely false".

(I'm guessing you meant to say, rumors about Haitians eating cats in America, but that's not what you said)

Okay. Eating cats in America. I thought that part was obvious.

 

[jmdrake]

You are the serial liar, I never said they were caught eating people here yet, I said it was a problem in Haiti much bigger than a single cherry picked example of an American who also needs to be removed from our society.

You are the serial liar. I never said they were never caught eating people someowhere else or that there weren't rumours of them eating cats in America. So one more time. My original statement, why your lying ass called false, is actually true.

 

[jmdrake]

So far there haven't even been any accusations of Haitians eating humans in America. Zero dividing by anything is still zero. But that's the funny thing about racism. It requires people to look at other people in terms of a group identity while allowing their own group the benefit of being individuals. Looking "per capita" the Haitians you're concerned about are less likely to be on drugs and more likely to show up to work on time than the white people around them "per capita." The white MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters in Springfiled Ohio were complaining that the Haitians had more welfare on their EBT cards than they did. I don't think refugees should be given welfare. But considering that they got it, this is what most likely happened. One person or more people in the household were getting EBT while others were working factory jobs. Since they didn't need the EBT and it rolls over each month that's how they were able to stack up $3,000. Trump was correct that people who were upset about him not paying taxes should change the law rather than bitching about him for taking advantage of it. Same with the migrants who stack up EBT. Maybe EBT payments shouldn't roll over for anybody. Certainly it shouldn't be given to migrants. But these white MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters could get off drugs and go get a job and get to work on time. That's what you would say if they were black and complaining about not getting enough welfare. And even people arguing against the Haitians haven't brought forward evidence that they aren't being paid above minimum wage. Example:

https://www.newsweek.com/springfield-emblematic-americas-immigration-death-spiral-opinion-1953366

But today, a new threat is endangering the livelihood of Springfield's citizens: Employers are actively displacing the domestic workforce by hiring newly-arrived immigrants from Haiti. All this at a time when 7 million American men between the ages of 25 and 55 are unemployed, and almost three quarters of the U.S.'s employment growth has come from immigrants since 2019.

And not everyone is embarrassed to admit it.

"I wish I had 30 more [he currently employs 30 Haitian workers," CEO Jamie McGregor of Springfield-based McGregor Metal, explained it this way during his PBS News Hour interview. "Our Haitian associates come to work every day. They don't have a drug problem. They'll stay at their machine; they'll achieve their numbers. They're here to work. And so, in general, that's a stark difference from what we're used to in our community."​

Oh wow! Shame on that employer for wanting hard working workers who aren't on drugs, come to work on time and hit their numbers! Shame on him! Something should be done about immigration for sure. Venezuelan gangs are a real problem. Haitians eating cats are a made up one to cover up the inadequacy of drug addict MAGA hat wearing welfare recipients.

You said



Which is, as SS pointed out, "completely false".

(I'm guessing you meant to say, rumors about Haitians eating cats in America, but that's not what you said)

I went back to my orignal quote [MENTION=33245]TheTexan[/MENTION]. I specified in America at the beginning. I'll assume you just make a mistake, but [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] is straight up lying his ass off....as usual.

 

[TheTexan]

I went back to my orignal quote [MENTION=33245]TheTexan[/MENTION]. I specified in America at the beginning. I'll assume you just make a mistake, but [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] is straight up lying his ass off....as usual.

Nope, double checked, and no mistake here. You know I'm more than willing to admit when I make a mistake but this ain't it.

While you did provide the "Haitians in America" context in an earlier post, that context does not automatically get applied when you respond to a post by SS that had a different context. SS's post had the context of Haitians in Haiti, so when you responded to that post, you inherited his most recent context of Haitians in Haiti, and if you wanted to maintain the "In America" context, its reasonable to expect you to once again supply that context if that's what you had intended to mean.

And yes, in the absence of that intended context, what you stated would be indeed a "completely false" statement.

And yes, this is highly wearisome and pedantic, but so is needlessly calling each other liars rather than trying to understand the other's point of view.

Just sayin'

 

[TheTexan]

Okay. Eating cats in America. I thought that part was obvious.

It was obvious to me but only because I know you're not dumb enough to say that Haitians eating cats isn't a real thing.

Believe it or not, after Trump picked up this story, a lot of people started trying to whitewash Haitian culture as if eating cats was something they don't actually even do.

Like if you google right now "do Haitians eat cats" you'll generally get responses calling it a false stereotype. If you set a time filter to only show articles before the year 2024, you'll get an entirely different set of results. Like apparently they have a holiday around Christmas where the traditional dish is made from cats.

The same effect can be seen about Nazi's in Ukraine. Prior to Russia's invasion, search results show that neo-Nazi'ism is a serious problem. After Russia's invasion, Ukraine's nazi problem apparently isn't a real thing lol.

So yea, I can certainly excuse SS or anyone else who may have read your post differently than what you had intended.

(Off topic and I don't know if this effect has a name or something, but I find the entire concept interesting, how the global narrative on a subject can change so dramatically literally overnight)

 

[jmdrake]

Nope, double checked, and no mistake here. You know I'm more than willing to admit when I make a mistake but this ain't it.

While you did provide the "Haitians in America" context in an earlier post, that context does not automatically get applied when you respond to a post by SS that had a different context. SS's post had the context of Haitians in Haiti, so when you responded to that post, you inherited his most recent context of Haitians in Haiti, and if you wanted to maintain the "In America" context, its reasonable to expect you to once again supply that context if that's what you had intended to mean.

And yes, in the absence of that intended context, what you stated would be indeed a "completely false" statement.

And yes, this is highly wearisome and pedantic, but so is needlessly calling each other liars rather than trying to understand the other's point of view.

Just sayin'

Nope. Sorry but you don't get off the hook that easy. [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION]'s first response to my clear context that I was talking about Haitians in America was to say what I said was "bunk." It wasn't "bunk." There are no rumours about Haitians eating humans in America. Nice try. No cigar. There is no "per capita" comparison for Haitians eating humans in America and white people eating people in America. If [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] had said "You're right about America but what about Haiti?" I would have responded with "What about Haiti? That's got nothing to do with what's happening in America." The Biden / Harris administration have done a lot of things wrong especially on immigration. But they acutally vetted the Haitians that were let in under TPS. The facts that we have so far is they didn't let in any cannibals. That's different than what's happened with the migrants let in from Venezuela where there isn't any screening because there's not any diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Venezuela.

 

[acptulsa]

Pure garbage, he drove the money changers out of the Temple using violence, and the Bible is full of the destruction of devil worshipers past and future.

Your pathetic atheist/satanist interpretation of Christianity falls as utterly flat as your understanding of the 1stA.

Don't look now, but it's your interpretation of Christianity which is suspect. Jesus didn't accuse them of worshipping the devil, or anyone else. Obviously nobody else suspected that or they wouldn't have been allowed to set up shop in the temple. What Jesus actually objected to was people making a fat profit off of the faith of others.

13 - And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,

14 - And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

15 - And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

16 - And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

You think it takes a devil worshipper to sell merchandise in a church? Since when? Since you got desperate for a way to justify your blood lust?

See, the problem with the things you advocate is, the only people smart enough to stand a prayer of doing the job justly are smart enough to know that it can't always be possible for anyone. So, they refuse to do it, and that leaves some "ya gotta crack some eggs" power mad idiot in charge.

You find that acceptable, probably because you'd love the job. That doesn't make it acceptable.

 

[TheTexan]

But they acutally vetted the Haitians that were let in under TPS.

lol

 

[jmdrake]

It was obvious to me but only because I know you're not dumb enough to say that Haitians eating cats isn't a real thing.

It wasn't just obvious. It was stated. I stated that I was talking about "in America" from the jump and SS straight up lied and said that was "bunk."

Believe it or not, after Trump picked up this story, a lot of people started trying to whitewash Haitian culture as if eating cats was something they don't actually even do.

Like if you google right now "do Haitians eat cats" you'll generally get responses calling it a false stereotype. If you set a time filter to only show articles before the year 2024, you'll get an entirely different set of results. Like apparently they have a holiday around Christmas where the traditional dish is made from cats.

Maybe. I don't have a time machine. But anybody saying cat eating isn't part of Haitian culture is probably arguing that, unlike China, you can't go to a local supermarket in Haiti (yes those do exist) and buy cat or dog like you can in China. This is in China.

Finding some random story of some dirt poor person in Haiti who's facing starvation eating cats isn't the same as saying that cat eating is mainstream in Haiti like it is in China. I used to watch the celebrity Chinese cooking show on PBS called "Yan can cook." I don't remember him doing cat, but I do remember him going to a "snack market" in China and eating fried silk worms. "Crunchy on the outside....juicy on the inside." And, in case you forgot, when it was "racist" to say that COVID-19 came from the lab in Wuhan, it was perfectly okay to say that it came from Chinese eating bat soup. So where are these Haitian cat cooking shows from prior to 2022?

The same effect can be seen about Nazi's in Ukraine. Prior to Russia's invasion, search results show that neo-Nazi'ism is a serious problem. After Russia's invasion, Ukraine's nazi problem apparently isn't a real thing lol.

True. Only I can still find the Ukraine Nazi stories without much trouble. The spin seems to be that these are the "good Nazis" unlike the Charlottesville Nazis that they attack Trump over. It's kind of like how the mujahadeen were the good Islamic fundamentalists.

So yea, I can certainly excuse SS or anyone else who may have read your post differently than what you had intended.

(Off topic and I don't know if this effect has a name or something, but I find the entire concept interesting, how the global narrative on a subject can change so dramatically literally overnight)

Memory hole?

 

[jmdrake]

lol

LOL all you want. But nobody has debated that there hasn't been any murders attributed to any of the 20,000 Haitians living in Springfield Ohio. Yet Brett Bair just got through grilling Kamala about murders committed by Central American migrants she and Biden let it. And there have been all of the stories of the Venezuelan gangs. If there's this massive conspiracy to cover for the Haitians, why isn't it being used to cover for everybody else?

 

[TheTexan]

It wasn't just obvious. It was stated. I stated that I was talking about "in America" from the jump and SS straight up lied and said that was "bunk."

LOL there's nothing "lying" about calling your post "bunk". He disagreed with your post and then articulated why he disagreed.

That's not a "lie" that's just how disagreement works.

 

[TheTexan]

LOL all you want. But nobody has debated that there hasn't been any murders attributed to any of the 20,000 Haitians living in Springfield Ohio. Yet Brett Bair just got through grilling Kamala about murders committed by Central American migrants she and Biden let it. And there have been all of the stories of the Venezuelan gangs. If there's this massive conspiracy to cover for the Haitians, why isn't it being used to cover for everybody else?

a) Because they haven't murdered anyone yet doesn't mean that they won't
b) Why the fuck is there 20,000 Haitians living in Springfield Ohio? Rhetorical question, I know the answer.
c) The massive conspiracy isn't the Haitians it's the rampant importation of everyone from everwhere, and I don't give a fuck where these immigrants are from send them the fuck back where they came from and the fact that Haiti is full of cat-eating sacrificial voodoo witches just means maybe these Haitians should be first on that list to be deported because fuck them that's why

 

[jmdrake]

LOL there's nothing "lying" about calling your post "bunk". He disagreed with your post and then articulated why he disagreed.

That's not a "lie" that's just how disagreement works.

Okay. That sounds like the logic of the Kamala Harris supporters who say "Bunk" when you say she's for taking people's guns" and they say "She said she owns a gun." There are honest disagreements and there are dishonest ones. The per capita instances of Haitians in America eating humans is so far zero. That's not a debatable point.