Southern Poverty Law Center's Criteria for Naming 'Hate Groups' Subpoenaed

My guess is that the subpoena will be quashed (love that word, by the way) or ignored. I have not done the research but Virginia courts probably do not have jurisdiction to issue subpoenas in Alabama. They would need to get an Alabama court to issue it and that can be complicated.
 
Acala said:
My guess is that the subpoena will be quashed (love that word, by the way) or ignored. I have not done the research but Virginia courts probably do not have jurisdiction to issue subpoenas in Alabama. They would need to get an Alabama court to issue it and that can be complicated.
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That doesn't seem quite right. The SPLC can come in and make charges against him but he can't defend against them because they're from Alabama?
 
SPLC'S Cultural Marxist game plan: Do everything in their power to divide the people, group/catalog them by their differences, then turn all upon each other, so to keep the masses weak and preoccupied. Ron Paul did get the people together in 2008, reached across party lines; Cindy McKinney, Chuck Baldwin, Ralph Nader, & Bob Barr(jackass troll) united, even though each represented difference political ideologic parties.


"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -- Mark Twain
 
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PRB said:
I realize that, but I'm not sure conspiracy theorists do.



No, I do not, since nobody is forced to listen to them.
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A good example on an organization making it easier for fusion centers to prove their false worth is the Southern Poverty Law Center, which — presumably bored with, or perhaps bankrupt of race-baiting ideas — has squarely focused its accusations of hate on Americans who would prefer a version of America with a smaller government.

Hearkening back to its roots and blaming the Nation’s decision to elect and re-elect a black President for perceived growth in the number of “conspiracy-minded antigovernment ‘Patriot’ groups” in recent years, the SPLC breathlessly exclaimed with the release of its latest “Intelligence Report”:


Now, it seems likely that the radical right’s growth will continue. In 2012, before Obama’s re-election and the Newtown, Conn., massacre, the rate of Patriot growth had slackened somewhat, although it remained significant. Anger over the idea of four more years under a black, Democratic president — and, even more explosively, the same kinds of gun control efforts that fueled the militia movement of the 1990s — seems already to be fomenting another Patriot spurt.

Even before the election last year, self-described Patriots sounded ready for action. “Our Federal Government is just a tool of International Socialism now, operating under UN Agendas not our American agenda,” the United States Patriots Union wrote last year in a letter “sent to ALL conservative state legislators, all states.” This means that freedom and liberty must be defended by the states under their Constitutional Balance of Power, or we are headed to Civil War wherein the people will have no choice but to take matters into their own hands.

In its effort of essentializing that all small government advocates or persons who proudly refer to themselves as patriots are terroristic in nature, SPLC and those who accept its ideology eagerly create an entire class of unwitting homegrown terrorist.

As previously noted by Personal Liberty, SPLC counts the following among potential small government troublemakers, people who it lists alongside the likes of white supremacists and neo-Nazis:

◾Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.).
◾Representative Trey Radel (R-Fla.).
◾State lawmakers in Arizona, Mississippi, South Carolina and Tennessee who proposed laws that sought to prevent Federal gun control from applying to their States.
◾Sheriff Richard Mack.
◾FOX News Radio host Todd Starnes.
◾ConservativeDaily.com’s Tony Adkins.
◾Chuck Baldwin, a Montana-based Patriot leader long associated with the Constitution Party.
◾The Oath Keepers.

This author would be willing to bet that he and many of you also fit the bill to be grouped alongside SPLC’s list of hysterical small-government advocates.

For people like those at the SPLC and the Nation’s fusion centers, it doesn’t matter that Americans have the Constitutionally protected right to speak out against what they perceive to be government’s shortcomings and abuses. The name of the game for them is remaining relevant. That is to say, if SPLC actually focused on fighting racism and fusion centers focused on tracking legitimate terror threats (which would likely get them in trouble with SPLC for profiling), both enterprises would have little with which to busy themselves.

It is far easier for the two to attack the millions of Americans cognizant of and angry about too big, too wasteful and woefully inept bureaucracy in America. The aforementioned Senate report on fusion centers notes that they have gone so far as to collect information on individuals who placed political stickers in public bathrooms or participated in protests against government actions. And while the information may sit and collect dust forever, precedents set throughout American history (Alien and Sedition acts, Japanese internment) make it frighteningly possible that it could be put to a more sinister use.
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http://personalliberty.com/2013/04/...rmation-about-possibly-problematic-americans/
 
Origanalist said:
That doesn't seem quite right. The SPLC can come in and make charges against him but he can't defend against them because they're from Alabama?
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I think all they did was put the group on their list. They didn't avail themselves of the court in Virginia. If they had taken some legal action in Virginia then they would probably be subject to subpoena directly by a Virginia court. Or if the guy sued them in Virginia for defamation and the court took personal jurisdiction based on the defamation happening in Virginia, then he could probably subpoena them, but still have to go through an Alabama court.

Issues of jursidiction across state lines are a nightmare.
 
Acala said:
I think all they did was put the group on their list. They didn't avail themselves of the court in Virginia. If they had taken some legal action in Virginia then they would probably be subject to subpoena directly by a Virginia court. Or if the guy sued them in Virginia for defamation and the court took personal jurisdiction based on the defamation happening in Virginia, then he could probably subpoena them, but still have to go through an Alabama court.

Issues of jursidiction across state lines are a nightmare.
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SPLC is a Federal agency..
despite any claims to the contrary.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/08/its-official-southern-poverty-law-center-is-now-part-of-dhs/

It is part of DHS.
 
pcosmar said:
It would be nice to have even the memory of them wiped from existence,, but much of the damage has been done.

Still, ,will be good to see then squirm in the hot seat.
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No, not wiped from existence, tossed into a black hole. Like Eugene McCarthy. Let SPLC become a verb, where to SPLC someone is akin to McCarthyism. Let memory and history record forever that what the SPLC does now is unequivocable evil.
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/arm...es-splc-as-trusted-source-to-define-extremism

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pen...southern-poverty-law-center-training-resource

http://www.osce.org/odihr/103555

As one of the nation’s leading providers of anti-bias education resources, we reach hundreds of thousands of educators and millions of students annually through our award-winning Teaching Tolerance magazine, multimedia teaching kits, online curricula, professional development resources and special projects like Mix It Up at Lunch Day. These materials are provided to educators at no cost.
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Because the Southern Poverty Law Center has direct ties to the Department of Homeland Security, helping to write official DHS policy that may affect my life, my freedom, my ability to travel and my ability to speak out. - See more at: http://americanpolicy.org/2011/03/1...nt-of-homeland-security/#sthash.96D6eoym.dpuf
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