Some observations from today...

[alionbe]

I was out with the meetup group waving signs at a busy intersection in Chicago today. It wasn't huge (maybe 20 people at one time) but i thought it was pretty successful.

Several times today I heard people calling Ron Paul a racist, yelling from cars or coming right up to us. Most of them wouldn't even let us clear it up for them which was disappointing. A lot of liberals around here would be receptive to Dr. Paul's message but it looks like the smear campaign was effective. Anyone else seeing this? I thought it might be a good idea to make a separate slim jim or some handout made to address this.

Another thing I thought was interesting was the disproportionately high amount of enthusiasm from cab drivers. I can't tell you how many were honking for us and shouting "Go Ron Paul" in support. A good number of them rolled down their windows and asked for our handouts. I'm curious as to if this is because of those tip cards people hand out. If so, this is very encouraging. What a great idea.

I took some video of the meetup members talking about their support...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN-XA100TF4


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edit: since there was some concern as to if i was just making this up....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aCDcmpitc8E

on page 7 of this thread i give a summary of these occurences

 

[Lord Xar]

hhahahahaha... I don't know.. I just don't know..

cab drivers support? Liberals receptive? Racist?

hahha.. alot of keywords.... I smell something, not sure yet...

 

[wgadget]

Last week we held the huge RP sign (4'x8') on the overpass, and there was a white guy who walked past us and asked if he (RP) took money from a white supremacist. We had to answer yes, and tried to "clear it up" for him, but he said, "No, that's all I need to know..."

OTOH, someone was out signwaving in ATL today and noticed that there was a lot MORE support from African-Americans than there was last week. I have also noticed the the AAs seem to like him here in the suburbs.

 

[Ibgamer]

Stop it guys, welcome to the forums!

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

You don't get it.

Liberals don't want evidence that Ron Paul isn't a racist because THEY WANT to believe that he is. It makes their already infantile worldview simpler; racism is evil, conservatism is evil, therefore Ron Paul, a conservative, is both evil and racist.

Don't bother trying to convince the diehard commies that he isn't; they're going to ignore you and still tell everyone Ron is a racist. Instead, dispell the notion with independents willing to listen to both sides.

 

[wgadget]

Hahah, a troll with a youtube video showing Ron Paul supporters out working the streets of Chicago. Must be a first.

 

[Iwantchange]

Just keep pushing Ron Paul, and explain the situation.

 

[alionbe]

Until another meetup member who is established in these forums confirms this event, I say it's a newbie troll.

are you serious? you can look at the vid.


the people accusing him of being racist, at least the ones we got to talk to, were referring to the newsletter. One lady sounded like she was kinda interested him or at least knew about him and was concerned about the newsletter.

 

[pacelli]

Welcome to the forums! Luckily the video supplied does not show nor talk about the negative aspects of sign waving.

 

[Iwantchange]

Hopefully Jan 21st if it's big enough to make news will dispell this stupid idea of racism...

 

[alionbe]

it was the first meetup thing ive done. i should have clarified that. i posted here because i though you might be interested in my impressions, as a newer supporter. what's with the troll stuff? kinda condescending dont you think.

 

[Paulitical Correctness]

Alionbe, welcome to the forum.

On behalf of my forumites, I must apologize for the hostility.

It's just...we don't like trolls, and with a low post count comes a low amount of trust.

It's alright, the skeptics will warm up.

 

[freedom-maniac]

You don't get it.

Liberals don't want evidence that Ron Paul isn't a racist because THEY WANT to believe that he is. It makes their already infantile worldview simpler; racism is evil, conservatism is evil, therefore Ron Paul, a conservative, is both evil and racist.

Don't bother trying to convince the diehard commies that he isn't; they're going to ignore you and still tell everyone Ron is a racist. Instead, dispell the notion with independents willing to listen to both sides.

Liberal's think every Caucasian is automatically a racist if they don't hate themselves for being white, and going around appoligizing for how they themselves personally caused slavery, and killed off the Native Americans.

More recently, some liberal's have adopted the view that ALL whites are automatically racist, regardless of how much they hate themselves. The idea is that since whites are the majority and a few may be racists, that all whites are racists for contributing to the white majority that allows society to alieanate minorities. It also believes that all minorities can't be racist, because they lack the majority status of society to impose their views of racism. They've been teaching this in college's in New England for a while now, and students are actually graded on how well they agree with the non-sense.

Just like neo-cons, Liberal's don't THINK.

 

[pacelli]

You don't get it.

Liberals don't want evidence that Ron Paul isn't a racist because THEY WANT to believe that he is. It makes their already infantile worldview simpler; racism is evil, conservatism is evil, therefore Ron Paul, a conservative, is both evil and racist.

Don't bother trying to convince the diehard commies that he isn't; they're going to ignore you and still tell everyone Ron is a racist. Instead, dispell the notion with independents willing to listen to both sides.

Korey, I'm so glad to see that your 666th post included a discussion of evil. Nicely done

I agree too-- those that believe the stream of propaganda are tuned to that style of believing. That is their preferred learning strategy, and the media is the only thing that will be able to change their minds. It is a waste of time to try to alter their perception. For those folks, an allegation is equivalent to a conviction.

 

[tikwanleap]

it was the first meetup thing ive done. i should have clarified that. i posted here because i though you might be interested in my impressions, as a newer supporter. what's with the troll stuff? kinda condescending dont you think.

Agreed, I wish people would quit with this troll stuff. It's totally counterproductive and negative.

 

[alaric]

it was the first meetup thing ive done. i should have clarified that. i posted here because i though you might be interested in my impressions, as a newer supporter. what's with the troll stuff? kinda condescending dont you think.

there are trolls in this forum, but i didn't get the impression you were one of them. I thought you just did a sign wave right after the hit piece came out and, being new, you didn't expect the amount of fear the establishment has toward Ron's exposing all the lies. As he becomes more popular and successful it will probably get more viscious. They have controlled things so long that seeing that people are taking him seriously really scares them. Welcome to the forum!

 

[mexicanpizza]

Until another meetup member who is established in these forums confirms this event, I say it's a newbie troll.

Reported.

 

[alionbe]

there are trolls in this forum, but i didn't get the impression you were one of them. I thought you just did a sign wave right after the hit piece came out and, being new, you didn't expect the amount of fear the establishment has toward Ron's exposing all the lies. As he becomes more popular and successful it will probably get more viscious. They have controlled things so long that seeing that people are taking him seriously really scares them. Welcome to the forum!

exactly.. most of the people saying this stuff were real young, and most likely obama supporters. I'm left-leaning myself (not so much anymore). In the sense that I say these people would be receptive to the message, I'm really thinking about my own experience. if it werent for Paul, i'd probably think Obama was best. the only reason i posted this because i was shocked that so many people knew about the newsletter. if anything, i expected them to not know anything about him other than being against the war. i guess dailykos and huffington post has something to do with this

 

[itsthepathocrats]

eom

 

[alionbe]

Alex is an infiltrator and this thread is B.S.

i created the youtube account today specifically for ron paul stuff.
what do you want me to do to prove that i was at a meetup today? fake ron paul supporters? they'd probably be pissed if they heard that.

this is getting rediculous

edit: also, i dont understand what in this thread is supposed to be an attack. you have 10 posts yourself.. why are you more qualified than me?