So tired of hiding behind "not voting for Trump, but..."

[twomp]

Why would they freak out? He's making them an insane amount of money.

His biggest supporters are Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. Oh wait, those 2 neocons must not be corrupt if they support Trump.... Trump supporters are still pushing that meme that the guy that gets the most media coverage is somehow the poor, innocent victim of a media conspiracy. Just one example in a long list of hypocrisy.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Thank you, and I understand yours, and TER's, and others like both of you, reasoning on this.

Considering the lousy choice set we have here, it is sound, and I am in no position to say anything negative about it.

I have always found you to be one of the most clear thinking individuals on these forums. As usual I agree with you and your views. The only difference I have this time is that I am considering voting for Trump, but still undecided.

My preference is listed below in my signature. My preference for Trump over Clinton is simple. Deciding who to vote for is not so simple for me.

Normally I don't bother with the whole lesser of two evil nonsense. This time seems to be a unique situation, similar to when Perot was running, only this time the non-politician is actually in a position to win. I welcome the cracking of the system and the loss of power to the Clinton/Bush machine.

While I want Clinton to lose, I am not excited by the prospect of giving tacit approval of the system by voting for Trump.

I don't approve of Trump and his BIG GOVT schemes. He is a moderate/liberal Republican and not much different from Romney in my mind.

My votes against McCain and Romney in these last few elections were meant to punish the GOP and force them to offer us better choices. This time around I am not interested in punishing the GOP and I do want them to win. So I am torn. For the first time since I discovered I was a libertarian, I am undecided on who I want to vote for, if I vote at all. It sure is a shame that the Libertarian candidate sucks so bad.

 

[openfire]

This election is (or should be) about punishing the system that the globalist jackals have erected to control us all; From their control of the media and education, to the revolving door of corporate cronyism - and everything in between - they quite literally have full spectrum dominance. We should always reject their puppet candidates while the rule of law (ostensibly) still exists. If this comes in the form of Trump as opposed to an ideal candidate like Ron Paul, so be it. Some get it, some don't. It's hard to argue with those who don't.

 

[lilymc]

This election is (or should be) about punishing the system that the globalist jackals have erected to control us all; From their control of the media and education, to the revolving door of corporate cronyism - and everything in between - they quite literally have full spectrum dominance. We should always reject their puppet candidates while the rule of law (ostensibly) still exists. If this comes in the form of Trump as opposed to an ideal candidate like Ron Paul, so be it. Some get it, some don't. It's hard to argue with those who don't.

+ rep. Well said.

 

[asurfaholic]

Ron Paul will once again be proudly represented on my ballot. The other 4 choices are pure trash.

 

[Cleaner44]

Why would they freak out? He's making them an insane amount of money.

Because he threatens to lose them even more money if he doesn't pursue their liberal agenda.

The amount that they are making during this election cycle is quickly coming to an end.

 

[CPUd]

Because he threatens to lose them even more money if he doesn't pursue their liberal agenda.

The amount that they are making during this election cycle is quickly coming to an end.

He doesn't seem to have a problem doing that:
Trump Outlines Child-Care as a "Right"

 

[CaptUSA]

More people here should listen to Rand.

Really? So we should have "listened to Rand" when he supported Romney, too?! I mean, the Romney endorsement was even more full-throated.

Nah, it didn't work last time. Last time, I wrote in his father. Think I'll do the same this time. Ron Paul is my President.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I choose Trump. If Hillary is elected, game over. No more time to get things in order at the state and local level.

Trump is a hail mary. But, it's a chance. Hillary, it's a done deal.

 

[juleswin]

Thinking of voting for Trump and I will take a pic after I do. This to prove that even with my vote, he will still lose to a sick, corrupt and hated Hillary Clinton. Nominating the worst political candidate is what you did by nominating Trump.

Might vote for Gary Johnson if he is on the ballot.

 

[Cleaner44]

He doesn't seem to have a problem doing that:
Trump Outlines Child-Care as a "Right"

Are you saying that this wealth redistribution will help the media make more money? I don't see how. Please explain.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Thinking of voting for Trump and I will take a pic after I do. This to prove that even with my vote, he will still lose to a sick, corrupt and hated Hillary Clinton. Nominating the worst political candidate is what you did by nominating Trump.

You did, eh? Are you an American citizen? Well, you did it too, bud. Besides Rand, who would you have preferred? Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Ted? Give me a break. Trump was the best of that lot. After all, he's the only one against the TPP. Which means he is the only one who gives a rat's ass about our country's national sovereignty. He's also the only one who is against the fricking illegal alien invasion of our country and besides Rand, not importing more Syrian "refugees" until at least they are able to be adequately vetted. Personally, I would say never, but that's my opinion.

Might vote for Gary Johnson if he is on the ballot.

Yeah, Johnson is a real winner. You do realize he said he would sign the Trans Pacific Partnership, right? Have you researched that?

 

[Southron]

I'm probably voting for Trump. I have voted 3rd Party the last 2 Presidential elections. I really don't like Gary Johnson. I don't really believe in national politics anymore but I also don't want the Democrats to have the Presidency for 16 years.

I voted for Rand in the primary and not Trump and I intend to call Trump out on his bad policies. One of the things I hope we get with Trump is better foreign relations with Russia and less intervention overall.

But I will reserve the right to change my mind and skip voting for President altogether.

 

[JohnM]

In terms of probability, 538 currently have Clinton at 63.6%, Trump at 36.3%, and Johnson at less than 0.01%.

What that means is that it will be either Clinton or Trump. My guess is that a Trump presidency will do less damage than a Clinton presidency, so I hope that Trump wins, even though I suspect that he is worse than Romney, McCain, or Obama.

In terms of probability, it is extremely unlikely that any state will be won by a margin of less than 10 votes.

So, in the end of the day, it really makes no difference whether I vote or not, or who I vote for. And that means that I can vote for, or write-in, the candidate that I like best, without any fear that I will be helping Hilary Clinton to win.

And so I will not be voting for Donald Trump.

 

[juleswin]

You did, eh? Are you an American citizen? Well, you did it too, bud. Besides Rand, who would you have preferred? Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Ted? Give me a break. Trump was the best of that lot. After all, he's the only one against the TPP. Which means he is the only one who gives a rat's ass about our country's national sovereignty. He's also the only one who is against the fricking illegal alien invasion of our country and besides Rand, not importing more Syrian "refugees" until at least they are able to be adequately vetted. Personally, I would say never, but that's my opinion.


Yeah, Johnson is a real winner. You do realize he said he would sign the Trans Pacific Partnership, right? Have you researched that?

I am not responsible for Trump being the repub nominee, its "you" guys and gals who voted for him in the primaries that are responsible for it all and you have nothing to worry about if you didn't vote for him.

And yes, I think just about any republican candidate who is not a Clinton agent would have made a better nominee. I have said this a million times now and counting, Trump is not who is said he is. The few times that he sings to your tunes like the criticism of the federal reserve is just him paying lip service to the issue to get your vote. Are we to believe that the man who thinks its ok for the US to print money as they wish whilst he criticizes the Chinese for manipulating their currency understands anything about monetary policy?

So reiterate what I have always believed and said in my poss on RPFt, if I really had to choose, I would take a Cruz, a Kaisch, a Ben Carson et al. over a Trump. He is acting like a populist and sorta siding with some common sense policies. The sad part would be when those policies are associated with him and after his loss, those policies that you love so much to overlook so much bad in Trump would go down with him. He is a Clinton agent and toxic to any cause he supports.

Lastly, I consider Gary Johnson because he is much better than the two party selections. He is not just marginally better, he is significantly better that I would consider voting for him. I know what my signature says but I also believe that when you are facing the right direction, all you have to do is keep walking. Johnson is facing the right direction and I can live with cast the vote for him.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

My State, Michigan, is going Hillary anyways.

Not so sure about that. Recent polls show that what previously seemed a certainty is increasingly an open question, a close call. Furthermore, the Teamsters are not endorsing, they're staying neutral, for the first time since... maybe ever.

 

[liveandletlive]

Im going with Johnson. Trump is indeed an authoritarian clown who loves other authoritarian clowns. He's just running for president to promote his "brand". Basically a continuation of Trump steaks, Trump hotels, Trump golf courses but on the Maximum level of ego stroking and dick waving....now we've got the Trump presidency! He has no coherent plan for anything other than troll people to either get attention or manipulate a reaction. Theres no indication he would do anything different than what a Dubya or an Obama/Hillary would do. This buffoon loves the attention but shows no indication he is pro-liberty in terms of foreign/monetary/domestic policies.

 

[Ender]

Hitler exemplifies nationalism, so not sure would be accurate to liken Hilary with him, even though they are/were both war-mongering socialists.

It's just my way of making fun; her name doesn't rhyme with Stalin.

 

[TheCount]

Because he threatens to lose them even more money if he doesn't pursue their liberal agenda.

That doesn't make any sense. All of their viewers would hatewatch the news during the whole of a Trump presidency.

What you're proposing is the same as saying that Fox lost money because Obama was elected. The opposite happened; he's a big money maker for conservative media.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I am not responsible for Trump being the repub nominee, its "you" guys and gals who voted for him in the primaries that are responsible for it all and you have nothing to worry about if you didn't vote for him.

And yes, I think just about any republican candidate who is not a Clinton agent would have made a better nominee. I have said this a million times now and counting, Trump is not who is said he is. The few times that he sings to your tunes like the criticism of the federal reserve is just him paying lip service to the issue to get your vote. Are we to believe that the man who thinks its ok for the US to print money as they wish whilst he criticizes the Chinese for manipulating their currency understands anything about monetary policy?

So reiterate what I have always believed and said in my poss on RPFt, if I really had to choose, I would take a Cruz, a Kaisch, a Ben Carson et al. over a Trump. He is acting like a populist and sorta siding with some common sense policies. The sad part would be when those policies are associated with him and after his loss, those policies that you love so much to overlook so much bad in Trump would go down with him. He is a Clinton agent and toxic to any cause he supports.

Lastly, I consider Gary Johnson because he is much better than the two party selections. He is not just marginally better, he is significantly better that I would consider voting for him. I know what my signature says but I also believe that when you are facing the right direction, all you have to do is keep walking. Johnson is facing the right direction and I can live with cast the vote for him.

Johnson will sign the TPP. That is beyond traitorous. His VP is pro world government, which the TPP fits nicely into. There is nothing marginally better about that.