So now what?

[ClydeCoulter]

When Bob Barr didn't show? Serioiusly? Ron Paul didn't endorse Bob Barr in 2008, and he didn't endorse John McCain (the Republican nominee). Ron Paul endorsed a third party candidate.

He endorsed Chuck Baldwin, and then I voted for him.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

When Bob Barr didn't show? Serioiusly? Ron Paul didn't endorse Bob Barr in 2008, and he didn't endorse John McCain (the Republican nominee). Ron Paul endorsed a third party candidate.

Are you going to pay me for the history lesson or do you want to Google it for yourself?

 

[coffeewithchess]

Clever yet not so much. The difference is the RNC cheating and committing fraud yet those of us that want either the trolls to behave or gtfo are completely transparent about it and have put up with it for months and it's climaxing now. The saturation of negativity about Ron's restoration program and the overlooking of any of its successes is rampant by a small cabal of rabid saboteurs. Just calling it as is.

The only "restoration" project I know Ron has mentioned, is following the Constitution. He doesn't seem to care if you are Republican, Democrat, or third party...just follow your oath of office, and follow the Constitution. The only reason RP is a Republican now, is so that he could get elected in Texas. If RP lived in California, my guess is he would be a Democrat, or whatever it is necessary to get elected. Not one party.

 

[coffeewithchess]

Are you going to pay me for the history lesson or do you want to Google it for yourself?

Ron Paul endorsed a third party candidate in 2008, that is the history lesson.

 

[Rocco]

How did that pay off? We control the Nevada GOP!

Which is my point. If the "gains" made were the delegate strategy, how exactly did that pay off?

 

[cajuncocoa]

Clever yet not so much. The difference is the RNC cheating and committing fraud yet those of us that want either the trolls to behave or gtfo are completely transparent about it and have put up with it for months and it's climaxing now. The saturation of negativity about Ron's restoration program and the overlooking of any of its successes is rampant by a small cabal of rabid saboteurs. Just calling it as is.

Fine. I'm tired of the insults and accusations. I'll stop "trolling" Ron's board. I've already expressed my opinion and there's nothing more to say. Have fun in the GOP.

 

[coffeewithchess]

He endorsed Chuck Baldwin, and then I voted for him.

Yeah, I had followed Baldwin during the primary season, because of his great articles on Ron Paul and his positions. He seemed to be very well spoken, and knew his target audience well with his message. I wrote him, before he decided to run, and thanked him for his articles he had put together.

 

[Sematary]

You're not the only one seeing something is rotten in the state of Denmark. We must separate genuine disillusionment (Sematary) and the mini-conspiracy club that trashes Ron Paul's restore the GOP concept with every post. They're like moths to a flame piling on when a genuine person is feeling discouraged.

I'm assuming the disillusionment will pass. At least I hope it will. It's an incredibly large hill to scale and I'm not generally of the mind to quit. So once my anger passes and I'm ready to move on, well, you get the idea.... I'll most likely still be a reluctant Republican till either it (the gop), or we, are defeated.

 

[coffeewithchess]

How did that pay off? We control the Nevada GOP!

How many delegates from NV are there, and how has controlling the Nevada GOP helped in the current delegate situations with the RNC?

 

[Carlybee]

No, he clearly stated he wanted to reform the GOP and get his supporters involved with the political process at the state, delegate, and convention level.

I've been on his email list for quite a few years and in none of them did issue an edict ..it was a suggestion. And that was before his campaign decided he wouldn't pursue the nomination and before the delegates were tossed under the Romney bus yesterday. There obviously will be some changes in the gameplan and we who pays the money will decide how we wish to proceed.

 

[sailingaway]

Clever yet not so much. The difference is the RNC cheating and committing fraud yet those of us that want either the trolls to behave or gtfo are completely transparent about it and have put up with it for months and it's climaxing now. The saturation of negativity about Ron's restoration program and the overlooking of any of its successes is rampant by a small cabal of rabid saboteurs. Just calling it as is.

don't call members trolls just because they disagree with you, and I dont see where you should be telling people they need to work with you or gtfo. I agree with the negativity bit TO A POINT, and after Tampa would begin to ask people to cut it out. But when I say TO A POINT it is because this is a natural reaction by people who have just been freshly shafted by the RNC, and those who have not recently been putting their drive into Ron's campaign don't share the feelings as strongly Yet this is RON's campaign subforum. In Rands you likely won't find this push back. I don't see that your implying people who feel this way should gtfo of RON'S subforum when they have been more immersed in RON'S campaign than you, is appropriate.

 

[Rocco]

See, this is precisely the problem, there is a world beyond 2012, we gained all of these spots at the Nevada state convention just a few months ago, and after this election cycle we will begin to see the benefits. You cannot expect benefit when there's really been no action the new GOP couldve taken at this point.

How many delegates from NV are there, and how has controlling the Nevada GOP helped in the current delegate situations with the RNC?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Which is my point. If the "gains" made were the delegate strategy, how exactly did that pay off?

We only gained 10,000% over our delegate totals from 2008. To any unbiased observer those are off the chart gains made by our movement, not including all the other gains we've made that were already pointed out at the local, state, House, and Senate level. Why throw it all away and do nothing, none of the naysayers have provided any viable alternative. If we grow our delegation by a simple 200% we're a major player, 300% and we're in the drivers seat in 2016.

If the rational argument doesn't work, there's always the moral one. This is what Ron Paul wanted us to do.

 

[coffeewithchess]

See, this is precisely the problem, there is a world beyond 2012, we gained all of these spots at the Nevada state convention just a few months ago, and after this election cycle we will begin to see the benefits. You cannot expect benefit when there's really been no action the new GOP couldve taken at this point.

My question was an honest question. How many delegates do we have from NV, and how has controlling the NV GOP helped with the delegate situation? I mean, there's gotta be some benefit to it right?
I thought Ben Swann (who has incorrectly reported things) said that NV is where Romney and his campaign basically paid/hired/funded their separate convention in NV, and elected delegates only for Romney or something? Or, was that another state?

 

[Sematary]

We only gained 10,000% over our delegate totals from 2008. To any unbiased observer those are off the chart gains made by our movement, not including all the other gains we've made that were already pointed out at the local, state, House, and Senate level. Why throw it all away and do nothing, none of the naysayers have provided any viable alternative. If we grow our delegation by a simple 200% we're a major player, 300% and we're in the drivers seat in 2016.

I love your enthusiasm and unbridled optimism

 

[Rocco]

My apologies. Yes, Romney has hired his own Nevada team to do his campaigning, but we control the official state party. That means we can nominate candidates for state level and congressional positions, endorse candidates and has access to the largest lists of republicans of any list. We also nominate 2 representatives to the RNC.

My question was an honest question. How many delegates do we have from NV, and how has controlling the NV GOP helped with the delegate situation? I mean, there's gotta be some benefit to it right?
I thought Ben Swann (who has incorrectly reported things) said that NV is where Romney and his campaign basically paid/hired/funded their separate convention in NV, and elected delegates only for Romney or something? Or, was that another state?

 

[Rocco]

My apologies. Yes, Romney has hired his own Nevada team to do his campaigning, but we control the official state party. That means we can nominate candidates for state level and congressional positions, endorse candidates and has access to the largest lists of republicans of any list. We also nominate 2 representatives to the RNC.

My question was an honest question. How many delegates do we have from NV, and how has controlling the NV GOP helped with the delegate situation? I mean, there's gotta be some benefit to it right?
I thought Ben Swann (who has incorrectly reported things) said that NV is where Romney and his campaign basically paid/hired/funded their separate convention in NV, and elected delegates only for Romney or something? Or, was that another state?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Again...What ARE Ron Paul's plans?

To help those working to reform the GOP. Why do you think he spoke at those convention were we could make the most gains? Why did he endorse Bentivolio, Massie, or Amash?

 

[LibertyRevolution]

I'm assuming the disillusionment will pass. At least I hope it will. It's an incredibly large hill to scale and I'm not generally of the mind to quit. So once my anger passes and I'm ready to move on, well, you get the idea.... I'll most likely still be a reluctant Republican till either it (the gop), or we, are defeated.

You have more strength than me brother!

Me... I'm thinking land, with a stream, in mountains, in TN.
No state income tax on wages or pensions, property taxed at 4% of assessed value with a low mil rate.
I'm going to find my apathy and live out my days where I wont be bothered by the collapse of society that is coming.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Remember Debra Medina.

Beck set the trap, but she bares some responsibility for walking into it. I think she learned a valuable lesson and will play the game smarter next time.