Snowden vs Manning, heroes or traitors?

[phill4paul]

You are correct, I am wrong to assume that since he is not caged right now he is other than authentic/sincere. I am an arrogant person prone to follow the fucked up fancies of my own shallow mind.

Still, I've not the learning necessary to weigh things in any sophisticated fashion and my gut is telling me something is wrong here.

OK, I think I get your idea. Because he is not imprisoned he is COINTELPRO? Well, today I heard Rush, Hannity and Beck ALL back him. That tells me something is wrong indeed. I'm not sure that it is Snowden..something is hinky dink in the media regarding him though.

 

[bolil]

OK, I think I get your idea. Because he is not imprisoned he is COINTELPRO? Well, today I heard Rush, Hannity and Beck ALL back him. That tells me something is wrong indeed. I'm not sure that it is Snowden..something is hinky dink in the media regarding him though.

Yeah, that is where I was coming from before I smelled my own baseless opinion.

There is something different here, thought, that seems to be agreed upon.

Also, the surfeit of Snowden threads smells like a fucking mine. Another baseless, emotivist, observation.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It is not either or.

I advocate the release of Manning just as I will advocate for the release of Snowden. Just as John Kirakou shouldn't be sitting a cell, or the countless other political prisoners and unjustly convicted. Manning's case is tragic. That is not to stop me from applauding a man who more or less followed the footsteps of, even with seeing how Manning is being treated and the seriousness of the charges he faces.

It's a goddamn shame.

Ed and Elaine Brown, Irwin Schiff and Leonard Peltier come to mind right off the top of my head.

 

[randfan7]

When it comes to motive, intent, or agenda, what's the difference between what Bradley Manning did and what Edward Snowden did?

I don’t want to criticize either of these two whistleblowers but the way in which they both accessed and disclosed the information is important to compare and contrast. I think how they proceeded is critical in understanding why one would get more support than the other. I think Snowden took the better path.

1. Manning – soldier. Snowden – private contractor/citizen. I think the difference in status and how they accessed the information is important.

2. Manning tried to remain anonymous; but was caught because he took to the internet to brag about the leaks to a hacker? Did not give the impression of somebody that was willing to get caught.
Vs.
Snowden outed himself; there was no bragging in what I saw in his interview. He fully expected to get caught and accepted that from the onset.

3. Manning – document dumped to a foreign outlet simply known for leaking information. He didn’t filter the information or seem to care about making sure particularly sensitive information was not disclosed, correct me if I misunderstand this.
Vs.
Snowden – admittedly filtered the information, chose to make sure that particularly sensitive information was not disclosed and further asked the reporter he leaked the information to, to do the same. Snowden also leaked the information to a “credible” news outlet and a well-known ideologue of a reporter (and a liberal too). Not somebody just known for leaking information.

 

[donnay]

They are SUPER heroes to me!

 

[cajuncocoa]

 

[Neil Desmond]

Another whistleblower:

 

[DamianTV]

They are both heroes in my eyes.

I have to add to that.

What makes them Heroes over cops is they both knew damn well their Govt would come after them. They threw themselves on the grenade for our futures. Lets not waste what they've given us.