Should The Grassroots Have a Meetup To Decide Who to Support?

[MelissaCato]

Ron Paul

 

[specsaregood]

Some of us don't seem to have gotten the memo:

Unless acting like you have a sizeable enough force that it can afford to be divided demonstrates strength.

 

[acptulsa]

Unless acting like you have a sizeable enough force that it can afford to be divided demonstrates strength.

Never heard of winning an election through a flanking maneuver before. You can win an election by dividing the opposition; you don't win by dividing your own adherents.

 

[erowe1]

I believe that we, as a group, could pretty well guarantee the success of socialism on a global scale simply by adopting this as our long-term strategy.

1) Who cares about socialism?
2) It's not a long-term strategy. We already had our impact in 2012. Now that's over. If the GJ people missed it, that's their problem. What any of us do in November doesn't matter. When it comes to maximizing our impact in down-ticket races this year and in 2014 and the Republican primaries in 2016, I'll be right there.

 

[specsaregood]

Never heard of winning an election through a flanking maneuver before. You can win an election by dividing the opposition; you don't win by dividing your own adherents.

Our presidential election cycle is over. No other candidate has adherents such as dr. paul. If I wanted republican light, I'd just vote for Romney. Since anti-interventionism is a big issue for me, I'll probably vote for Goode. I'm certainly not gonna get unified into voting for a "humanitarian war" monger.

 

[pcosmar]

Fair enough, but when you are weak you dont go out of your way to prove how weak you are.

Going out of the way? No.

Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things--and the things that are not--to nullify the things that are,
That no flesh should glory in his presence.

 

[acptulsa]

Our presidential election cycle is over. No other candidate has adherents such as dr. paul. If I wanted republican light, I'd just vote for Romney. Since anti-interventionism is a big issue for me, I'll probably vote for Goode. I'm certainly not gonna get unified into voting for a "humanitarian war" monger.

It's not quite as sad as four years ago. But then again, maybe it's plenty close enough to being just as sad...

 

[notsure]

Well, I don't know but, maybe since this is called "Ron Paul" Forums, maybe we should support a successful "Ron Paul" write-in campaign? I don't know.
I mean, has Ron Paul even conceded? He is the guy we came in with. If you would like to share some websites or forums for some other candidates that you think might interest us, that would be cool too.

 

[specsaregood]

It's not quite as sad as four years ago. But then again, maybe it's plenty close enough to being just as sad...

I'm actually quite excited about our federal candidates still in the races: Amash, Bentivolio, Massie, Robinson, Stockman, Bills, maybe a few others I'm not quite as excited about but still good prospectives. We have the making of a great bunch of rabble rousers for next year.

edit: And I think Rand is gonna pull a bunch more flaky gop candidates our direction.

 

[erowe1]

It's not quite as sad as four years ago. But then again, maybe it's plenty close enough to being just as sad...

Four years ago we had Badlwin. So this year, if the presidential race is what interests you, it's far more sad.

 

[acptulsa]

I'm actually quite excited about our federal candidates still in the races: Amash, Bentivolio, Massie, Robinson, Stockman, Bills, maybe a few others I'm not quite as excited about but still good prospectives. We have the making of a great bunch of rabble rousers for next year.

Who knows, maybe we're better off sneaking up on people one district at a time. We've seen the rank and file paranoid of us, and it hasn't generally proven helpful.

Four years ago we had Badlwin. So this year, if the presidential race is what interests you, it's far more sad.

Shouldn't be. Now that Obama has proven beyond doubt what we knew about him all along, just about any peacenik could potentially garner one hell of a protest vote.

 

[RonRules]

Here's a plan that we can all unite the cats around. It's like a nice little bowl of milk.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?389442-Let-s-Win-At-Least-One-State%97Iowa

Vote your conscience in 49 states, but let's make Ron win Iowa. This will have a huge, unavoidable media effect.

WE run this!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Plenty of candidates to choose from:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365683-List-of-Liberty-minded-Candidates-for-US-Congress
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...minded-candidates-for-state-and-local-offices

 

[RonRules]

Plenty of candidates to choose from:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365683-List-of-Liberty-minded-Candidates-for-US-Congress
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...minded-candidates-for-state-and-local-offices

We do those too!

 

[erowe1]

Shouldn't be. Now that Obama has proven beyond doubt what we knew about him all along, just about any peacenik could potentially garner one hell of a protest vote.

Who cares about that? Some of us have more important things to do than help some third party yahoo get 2.5% instead of just 1.5%, just for the satisfaction of throwing the election to one of two candidates who are both identical.

 

[jllundqu]

I've got some super glue. Anyone have bailing wire? Duct tape? Bubble gum? We'll have us a coalition built in no time!

If it's all for Romney, though, count me out. It won't do any good (though it couldn't do any harm, considering how life is under the 'competition'), and Romney will just take credit and pretend that our help was no help.

This

I will vote for Gary Johnson and help to boost his numbers/ratings. Many others will join me. Romney will lose to Obama as a result of his treatment (and subsequent loss) of the libertarian faction of the GOP. The GOP insiders will see the writing on the wall. Accept more libertarian candidates in the future or be governed by the Dems. This will pave the way for Rand in 2016, who admittedly has a lot of work to do to maintain credibility with the movement, but that is my best case scenario.

 

[sailingaway]

Plenty of candidates to choose from:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365683-List-of-Liberty-minded-Candidates-for-US-Congress
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...minded-candidates-for-state-and-local-offices

Are civil liberties still left out in creating those lists? Because if they may have voted for NDAA and the Patriot Act and HR 347, they aren't for me. When that is fixed in the assessment technique, let me know.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Are civil liberties still left out in creating those lists? Because if they may have voted for NDAA and the Patriot Act and HR 347, they aren't for me. When that is fixed in the assessment technique, let me know.

I thought that was one of the big ways we were distinguishing many of them from standard Republicans?

 

[sailingaway]

I thought that was one of the big ways we were distinguishing many of them from standard Republicans?

It is one of the big ways I personally distinguish, but the last time I saw one of these lists when you went back to what counted for 'purity' civil liberties wasn't in it at all. If that has changed, I'd like to know, and see the new criteria. But until then, I honestly ignore those lists, and go from personal recommendations.

 

[MozoVote]

You can see where this thread is going .... imagine it magnified at a "grassroots convention". Various factions of people saying "Don't tell me what to do!!"

Do keep circulating the YouTube videos though. Get people outside the RP campaign to see the stuff the RNC is made of.