Shots fired, Bundy arrested

[pcosmar]

Mayhaps....

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/militant_shot_and_killed_while.html

Mayhaps,, but this McConnell sounds more like the Fed Plant to me.
the only one not arrested and telling a story.

edit,, knee jerk,, I don't know if he said that or if some writer made it up..
But something is foul,, and a lack of aid from those able to do so is disgusting.
it does not matter if you agree with them or not,,

Murder is wrong,, even when Government does it.

 

[phill4paul]

Mayhaps,, but this McConnell sounds more like the Fed Plant to me.
the only one not arrested and telling a story.

His accounts were second hand. From, he says, Payne and Cox. So there is a bit of a mix up. Given the 18 yr. old females account it would seem that he would have seen the first gunfire exchange as Finicum was only 200 yds. down the road before he took off driving. His account is indeed suspicious.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Dudes should just give up, there is no "winning". They can die I suppose, but even then there won't be much sympathy, given the goofballs on camera are clearly seeking death by Fed confrontation, or at least chest thumping to that effect.

Stupid is as Stupid does, even Gump knows that. The guy that died, I saw in the previous videos was over the top as well. He was hunting for death.

I detest the Federal government but it's clear most of these guys are mentally ill. The semi-sane ones gave up without their beloved battle to the death. Liberty isn't being watered here.

 

[goldenequity]

again.

 

[pcosmar]

''you're risking a civil war''.. Rhodes to FEDS

''no more Wacos'' ..Stuart Rhodes

i guess we shall soon find out.

I keep hearing that and Cops keep killing folks with no repercussions.

I am wondering who exactly is the controlled opposition and who are not.

Hint.. Government enforcers are the enemy of liberty.
Kissing the asses of such is unproductive.

 

[Lucille]

http://hopelesslysane.blogspot.com/2016/01/democrats-would-be-rioting.html

 

[Valli6]

Rep. Gregg Walden is urging them to leave

Greg Walden statement on the situation in Harney County

January 27, 2016 Press Release

HOOD RIVER – U.S. Rep. Greg Walden (R-Hood River) today issued the following statement on the situation in Harney County:

“I've been in close contact with local and federal officials throughout this long standoff, and we had all hoped for a peaceful conclusion to the situation in Harney County. Sadly, our hopes were shattered with the shooting that occurred during last night's arrest. While we wait to learn more details and next steps, we must keep the people of Harney County in our hearts as they are a strong community and have endured a great deal. Once again, I urge those who remain at the refuge to go home before anyone else gets hurt. And when this is done and the cameras' glare turns away from rural Oregon, the healing process will be a long one. Widespread frustration will continue until people in rural America feel like they are being heard and meaningful changes are made to federal land management policy.”

 

[goldenequity]

Washington Post Livefeed Burns Oregon.... 3 speakers scheduled. No Q&A

 

[JK/SEA]

Dudes should just give up, there is no "winning". They can die I suppose, but even then there won't be much sympathy, given the goofballs on camera are clearly seeking death by Fed confrontation, or at least chest thumping to that effect.

Stupid is as Stupid does, even Gump knows that. The guy that died, I saw in the previous videos was over the top as well. He was hunting for death.

I detest the Federal government but it's clear most of these guys are mentally ill. The semi-sane ones gave up without their beloved battle to the death. Liberty isn't being watered here.

reads like what King George probably said about his subjects across the Atlantic in 1776.

 

[goldenequity]

RAW Live: Helicopter heard...



or here: The Watchman

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Helo just did a close orbit

 

[youngbuck]

Washington Post Livefeed Burns Oregon.... 3 speakers scheduled. No Q&A

Speakers come out at about 47:00, speaking starts at about 47:45. First guy to speak is FBI Special Agent in Charge in Oregon.

 

[goldenequity]

RAW Live:


or here: The Watchman

 

[GunnyFreedom]

They are really bad at this camera thing.

 

[Dr.3D]

They are really bad at this camera thing.

Looks like they needed to mark what the top of the camera is.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I regret that I have but one rep to give for this post.

Have you been in a coma for the last 15 years? "The process" has been hopelessly corrupted to the point where there is no justice left in the "justice" system. You can be sure that the corrupt monsters with their claws into the system down to the bone will not be routed peacefully. They are thugs and monsters, and force is the only language they speak.

Eventually, to route out the corruption, it will come down to force. Even if we won every election, and every Sheriff's office, and every DA in the country, these people will not leave peacefully. Once they have tasted power they will not let go without a fight. This is simply the nature of the beast.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I agree completely and the prosecutor needs to be investigated [...]

Bottom line is you either believe in the process or you don't and if you don't then I would ask you take yourselves away from RPF [...]

What "process" would that be? The same "process" by which you say "the prosecutor needs to be investigated" ... ?

If you actually believe in that, then I've got some prime ocean-front property in Wyoming to sell you.

(And don't worry - it isn't "owned" by the Feds or "managed" by the BLM or anything like that ... I promise ...)

 

[nobody's_hero]

"I DON'T believe in the process and you're a fool if you do. And I'll stay right here despite your belief that you are the director of all things RPF's. "

I'm no director, I'm just giving you some friendly advice. Nearly 29,000 posts since 2007 on a website supposedly devoted to political activism and you're basically calling armed revolution by this point and all I can say is you've wasted your time. But, it's yours to do so.

And that goes for everyone. Do the moderators of RPF want half the posts to be about politics and the campaign and the other half consisting of takeover plots that might interest the FBI? Because that's where its headed. That's how alienated people are. They're not worried about the campaign. I don't disagree with anything that's been said about corruption or in some cases unconstitutional action. But since that's been going on in all governments and institutions since the beginning of time in all nations, shooting off your guns or taking control of a Post Office isn't going to change it. Life goes on, you make the most of it where you can and how you can legally. That's what I believe and if others disagree that's fine. But the Paul movement and RPF in monitoring it is largely statist - because it is going through the legitimate political process and does what it does through that process and believes in that process, like it or not. If you reject that, fine. But you're wasting your time being here then. I don't want censorship but I'm not going to be a party to people's Tea Party fantasies either and as I said, I hope the website and those running it aren't smeared or harassed by it either.

Oh give me a break.

The most we're going to get out of the political process is a chance to educate people. GunnyFreedom is right. The leviathan won't let go of power without a fight. Never has, never will. If what you are saying is true, then the patriots in 1775 got a lot of people killed unnecessarily because all they really had to do was vote harder or something and the king would've been like, 'whoops, my bad!'. That sir, is as much of a fantasy (if not more so) as what you refer to as the Johnny Reb mentality.

The question is not whether or not there will be a fight, but when and where it would be wisest to have that fight. I don't think Oregon was the time nor the place. Nevada was. Unfortunately Oregon sort of wiped out any progress made in Nevada and now militias are seen by boobus as the bad guys again.

And for what it's worth, the FBI is interested in everything said here, even the legal stuff. I'm sure I'm on a list somewhere just for being a delegate for Ron Paul, and that was using the process. Martin Luther King, Jr. used "the process" and the FBI has more files on him than Osama bin Laden. Maybe it's you who is delusional.

 

[Deborah K]

Eye Witness to the shooting:

 

[phill4paul]

I just had a FB debate about this. Christ, people a braindead. I had to keep re-iterating over and over that McConnell wasn't present at the shooting and that he made unverifiable second hand claims about the situation. And that Victoria gave a first hand eyewitness account. Over, and over and over. I finally just gave up.