Shots fired, Bundy arrested

[Lucille]

"Authorities urge remaining Oregon occupiers to quit after killing."
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/01/authorities-urge-remaining-oregon.html

The arrests and shooting have angered anti-government protesters across the country, said Mike Vanderboegh, a gun-rights activist active in self-proclaimed militia circles. "It's all I can do to keep people from going and shooting feds right now," he told Reuters. Vanderboegh said the FBI had acted too quickly to end a situation that was already headed toward peaceful resolution.

"Malheur: The 3,025 FPS Arrest Warrant."
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/01/malheur-3025-fps-arrest-warrant.html

News of the recent events in Oregon deeply saddened me. According to Victoria Sharp (who was in the car that was ambushed) Lavoy Finicum was shot when he had his hands in the air. We really won’t know who to believe until video of the event is released. (There were 30+ vehicles there, so the chances are very good that a dashcam recorded what happened.) The Federal agents have apparently now upped the ante, turning what had been a peaceful dialogue into a shooting affray. It saddens me to hear that there was loss of life in the ambush-arrest of several of the Malheur protestors. I must ask: Why did the FBI roadblock them out in the middle of nowhere, where there would no independent witnesses? (Why not just arrest them in the parking lot, just before the well-publicized public meeting?) Since when is an arrest warrant served at 3,025 feet per second?

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

The sheriff goon looked pretty upset in that video... I'd say he's spending a lot of time looking over his shoulder...

 

[goldenequity]

"They murdered him. I am an eye witness. Tell the people what they did." -- Ammon Bundy
https://www.facebook.com/DMLdaily/videos/1107295109309945/?fref=nf

A full 20min interview with Mel Bundy in 1 hour. http://www.newsmaxtv.com/

I gave Mel Bundy 20 full minutes to tell the story of what took place last night in Oregon, and what will happen next now that one man is dead and his brothers are being held by the FBI. You can catch the exclusive interview tonight on UNFILTERED. 9pm ET, and again at midnight. Only on NewsmaxTV.

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ugh.. I started to (try) and watch newsmax.... couldn't handle it. I'll wait for the youtube.

 

[wizardwatson]

"They murdered him. I am an eye witness. Tell the people what they did." -- Ammon Bundy
https://www.facebook.com/DMLdaily/videos/1107295109309945/?fref=nf

A full 20min interview with Mel Bundy in 1 hour. http://www.newsmaxtv.com/

I think if Ammon is asking them to stand down at this point they should.

As sick as it is, the economics of the moment put the pressure on the Fed's to explain the death. If a shootout occurs and a cop is killed, there isn't any leverage for anything. So if what Ammon is supposedly saying is true, that he can get a deal for the remaining occupiers to not be prosecuted if they give up the refuge, they should take it. I don't think any good will be salvageable if a full on shootout occurs. Let Ammon take over the protest from court as he says.

Of course, it appears from reports that there's a few players in the refuge who just want to die. Well, that will certainly generate more attention but it's only going to aggravate the public and become a divisive issue. If you really want some "peaceful" solution, I think this is the out. You wanted to be martyrs, well, one of your guys is one. If you force a shootout at this point, I think the public will side much more with law enforcement after that event.

If they are "really" interested in any kind of grassroots activist change that doesn't amount to scorched earth with respect to civil order, I think this is the last train.

Though, I'm not even sure it's a real deal. Sounds too generous almost, but perhaps this was the FBI's plan all along. Arrest the leadership off site, offer the rest immunity.

 

[idiom]

Stand down, have a huge fucking funeral with everyone carrying.

That ups the ante for the next confrontation.

Its that or start a war now. But seriously people are not pissed off enough yet.

 

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/2...hip-for-militia-group-in-oregon-standoff.html

Oregon standoff leader asks holdouts at refuge to go home

The attorney for the leader of an armed group occupying an Oregon wildlife refuge said Wednesday the man wants those remaining at the refuge to "please stand down" and go home.

Ammon Bundy made an initial appearance in federal court in Portland, Oregon after he and seven others were arrested Tuesday during an incident with police that killed 1.

This photo provided by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office on Wednesday, Jan. 27, 2016, shows Ammon Bundy, one of the members of an armed group occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge as part of a dispute over public lands in the Western U.S. Bundy and several others were arrested on Tuesday, Jan. 26, prompting gunfire and leaving one man dead during a traffic stop along a highway in Oregon's frozen high country. (Multnomah County Sheriff via AP)Expand / Contract

Mike Arnold, Bundy's attorney, read a statement afterward in which Bundy urged those still at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge to leave.

In the statement, Bundy asked the federal government to allow the people remaining at the refuge to depart without being prosecuted. Addressing those still holding out, Bundy's statement said: "Please stand down. Go home and hug your families. This fight is now in the courts. Please go home."

An unknown number of protesters remained at the refuge Wednesday, but members of the media began leaving after the FBI reportedly told some journalists the Bureau couldn't offer "protection."

KTVZ reporter Lauren Martinez tweeted a video of her leaving the compound area with the ominous note "@FBI warns media no protection." Oregon Public Broadcasting reporter John Sepulvado tweeted ".@OPB was told by FBI that we were on our own -- essentially stuff is going down and we need to move."

Earlier in the day, Jason Patrick, one of the leaders of the crew remaining at the outpost, said he could see an armored convoy and a number of law enforcement officers gathered from his perch in the compound.

"Sounds like the definition of peaceful resolution is either forcefully kidnapping me or death," Patrick told USA Today. "A peaceful resolution is not dead people."

The FBI and Oregon State Police were also establishing a series of checkpoints along key routes in and out of the refuge on Wednesday. The agencies said in a statement that the containment was to 'better ensure the safety of community members."

Bretzing said any remaining occupants of the refuge were free to leave through the checkpoints, but those leaving would be identified on their way out.

Patrick wouldn’t say how many people remained with him at the refuge, but he told The Washington Post that occupiers weren’t planning on leaving because of the arrests.

“Right now, we’re doing fine,” Patrick said. “We’re just trying to figure out how a dead cowboy equals a peaceful resolution.” Patrick’s comments could have been aimed at Oregon Gov. Kate Brown who asked for “patience as officials continue pursuit of a swift and peaceful resolution.”

Patrick told The Oregonian: “We’re all standing here ready to defend our peaceful resolution.”

Other protesters suggested the standoff may be petering out.

Brand Thornton, one of Bundy's supporters, said he left the refuge Monday and wasn't sure what those remaining would do.

"The entire leadership is gone," he told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "I wouldn't blame any of them for leaving."

 

[asurfaholic]

I am keeping this situation in my prayers and offer up that the battles are raging, but the war is already won. Hope that this can de-escalate before it gets riduliculous and perceptions get polluted by a few rash/ unwise choices.

Stand strong and keep the cameras on every second.

 

[goldenequity]

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[goldenequity]

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[pcosmar]

"Authorities urge remaining Oregon occupiers to quit after killing."
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/01/authorities-urge-remaining-oregon.html

The arrests and shooting have angered anti-government protesters across the country, said Mike Vanderboegh, a gun-rights activist active in self-proclaimed militia circles. "It's all I can do to keep people from going and shooting feds right now," he told Reuters.

Quit that.

 

[goldenequity]

Lavoy and daughter Thara Lynn Tenney

“I want the world to know how my father was murdered today.
His hands were in the air and he was shot in the face by the American authorities.
Ammon Bundy reported there are 6 witnesses to this evil,” wrote Tenney.
http://www.infowars.com/eyewitness-oregon-militiaman-murdered-by-cops-he-had-his-hands-in-the-air/

KrisAnne Hall "A Shootout????"


Michael Emery KVOI (Voice of Idaho) moments ago... Burns motel

 

[Schifference]

Gone full circle now. Started in the courts then became an armed position now it is back in the court.

 

[pcosmar]

 

[Weston White]

The patriots could not vote for people who made policy in Great Britain (i.e. Parliament) that affected them. That is what no taxation without representation means.

The matter of voting is entirely separate from representation. Voting is the ultimate result of being represented, which the latter entails the first right to be heard and to challenge the status quo--and laying the foundation for redress and due process.

 

[UWDude]

What do you suggest?

We should all go to public parks, and reassert our right to be there, the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and redress the grievances, (that's first amendment, yeah, protesting is amendment 1), such as the bailouts, the wars, the uneven political influence of the 1%...

...oh yeah, that lingo. I forgot. I forgot, when occupiers did it on public land, they were "trespassing" and "breaking the law" etc etc... When occupiers were upsetting people's precious schedules, they were a "nuisance" and "pointless". Now you got a bunch of people protesting how most of you would prefer, out in the middle of nowhere, bothering nobody. That is not how mass movements are formed, fools. And it didn't do them any good. In fact, it got one of them killed, probably without a camera or "unbiased" eyewitness in sight.

You all lost your chance years ago. And most of you are nothing but persistent arguers, who will always find an excuse not to participate in anything unless you are absolutely 100% sure you will be sleeping in your bed that very night, afraid of even a little jail time, and agree 100% with everything on the agenda.

I've been watching this, this whole time, and thinking, "this is the great movement the RPF'ers were looking for, the one most of them dare not join, even if they sympathize 100%" It was your last chance.

There is nothing left to do, but live your life, and enjoy it while you can, and mentally and physically prepare for the inevitable downfall.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

There is nothing left to do, but live your life, and enjoy it while you can, and mentally and physically prepare for the inevitable downfall.

God bless the day the soup kitchens can't keep up with the demand of feeding whores.

I hope they bail out the college students through robbing pensions.

And they all die of AIDS.

Amen.

 

[UWDude]

God bless the day the soup kitchens can't keep up with the demand of feeding whores.

I hope they bail out the college students through robbing pensions.

And they all die of AIDS.

Amen.

Fuck it, it's every man for himself. Has it ever even been different?

Words of wisdom, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

The only people keeping Americans safe from themselves are the last few holdouts who still believe in liberty and freedom. And for that, the seething masses of idiots will hate you.

The people don't want liberty, they want safety, they don't want freedom, freedom is too hard. Fighting for people who don't deserve it is idiotic, and deserve means they will fight for you, regardless of your opinions, and that they will fight for themselves. If they do neither, then there is no reason to fight for them.

Just make sure you are on top.

 

[Weston White]

Let Ammon take over the protest from court as he says.

Of course, it appears from reports that there's a few players in the refuge who just want to die. Well, that will certainly generate more attention but it's only going to aggravate the public and become a divisive issue. If you really want some "peaceful" solution, I think this is the out. You wanted to be martyrs, well, one of your guys is one. If you force a shootout at this point, I think the public will side much more with law enforcement after that event.

If they are "really" interested in any kind of grassroots activist change that doesn't amount to scorched earth with respect to civil order, I think this is the last train.

Though, I'm not even sure it's a real deal. Sounds too generous almost, but perhaps this was the FBI's plan all along. Arrest the leadership off site, offer the rest immunity.

On the other hand, however, there is no way in H-E-double-hockey-sticks they are going to get any semblance of a fair trial in any venue there. Also, it should be noted that the FBI supposedly gave an ultimatum for everybody to leave without consequence and then immediately arrested Pete Santilli as he was attempting to deescalate the brewing standoff at the refuge and at the least get the women and children out of there.

So you have to ponder what is it that the FBI is really wanting to accomplish there--considering their sordid past, and that they ambushed them enroute to a public meeting by supposedly shooting over one-hundred rounds at them, killing one and injuring another, per a key witness.

 

[TheTexan]

What do you suggest?

Strongly worded letters (but not too strong, you want to stay respectful)
Sign waving (in the appropriately designated areas)
Petitions such as change.org (very important)

And obviously, voting super hard, is key.