Shots fired, Bundy arrested

[puppetmaster]

Damn. This over a small fire. fuck the feds Rand as president will pardon them from this injustice

 

[JK/SEA]

Damn. This over a small fire. fuck the feds Rand as president will pardon them from this injustice

from your lips to Gods ear.

 

[Weston White]

Is that right?

I suppose I don't see the glory in getting offed by the Feds over an occupation the Oregon family did not want.

Choose your battles wisely and live to fight another day.

"Glory"? Is this what you think this is about--glory? What up and smell the smelling salt. This is about petitioning "the government for a redress of grievances". Their grand jury have failed them, their courts and jury of their peers have failed them, their representatives have failed them, their administration of justice have failed them, their impartial press have failed them--what else is left?

Meanwhile, it has come out that the BLM is on video busting jokes about the small sum of remaining lands they have to take and how much they have acquest thus far and how the remaining ranchers should be very worried. And of potential evidence that local officials are implicated in orchestrating valuable land resources to private and foreign entities.

Living to wisely fight another day, is this the "glory" you envision in your own mind? I have news for you dude, you are living not by a code of glory, but by a code of despotism, and not to wisely fight another day, but to be mindlessly subdued for another day.

Read our American Declaration and become neither glory-struck nor patriotic, but become inspired--be a freeman. Going along to get along is for chattels and peons.

 

[ZENemy]

Who is the second man killed?

Yeah my bad, I was misinformed.

 

[pcosmar]

its over.

I don't think so.

But anyone who did not expect the violence to come from the government is both ignorant and foolish.

Those who expected violence from the "militants".. you are probably too stupid to be educated.

 

[pcosmar]

Cincinnatian Peter Santilli arrested in Oregon standoff
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...r-santilli-arrested-oregon-standoff/79386528/

Same charges as the rest.

Waco Texas all over again.

this is what happen when people have guns they are unwilling to use..

First Amendment gone too

 

[sparebulb]

My grim prediction is that in the next few days, EVERY GOP candidate will be trying to out cop/fedsuck the other to praise this outcome.

Rand might be the lone exception.....

Which will result is further loss of support from Boobus.

 

[Weston White]

A shootout:

a fight in which people shoot guns at each other until one side is killed or defeated

 

[sparebulb]

A shootout:

a fight in which people shoot guns at each other until one side is killed or defeated

That's not what it means in Newspeak.

 

[JK/SEA]

''Lavoy Finicum exited the vehicle, dropped to his knees with his hands on his head and repeated 3 times he was unarmed. Shot 3 times by FBI. '' Aamon Bundy to his wife.

un-comfirmed report.

tomorrow would have been Lavoy's birthday.

 

[TheTexan]

A shootout:

Did Bundy & crew even have guns? I don't see anything in CNN about them having guns. Maybe CNN chose to leave that detail out, in the interest of objective & unbiased reporting.

 

[nobody's_hero]

It would have gone a lot easier if he would have just broke into the jail.

To rescue two men who didn't want saving?

We knew this would happen. Bundy should have left when they said more than half the people in that area either worked for the federal wildlife agencies or personally knew someone who did. He should have left when the Hammonds turned themselves in without a whimper. He should have left when he made his point and the Committee of Safety which he helped establish asked him to leave.

Now we have some good patriots in jail because they wasted their stand on people who embrace their own shackles.

 

[Weston White]

At this point only one. LaVoy Finicum. I don't have much hope that he will be the only one.

Interesting:

Finicum and Blaine Cooper, two of the more outspoken members of the anti-government occupation, said federal authorities pressured Arizona child-welfare officials to retaliate against them days after the siege began. . . . Non-profit tax records show that before joining the standoff, Finicum collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in state subsidies caring for foster children at his former ranch in Paulden and his new one near Colorado City.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...t-group-leader-ammon-bundy-arrested/79380650/

 

[Weston White]

That's not what it means in Newspeak.

The FBI and state police shooting at the subjects of an arrest for being uncooperative is not a so-called, shootout, and that is in everyday plain, whatever, English speak.

 

[Weston White]

Did Bundy & crew even have guns? I don't see anything in CNN about them having guns. Maybe CNN chose to leave that detail out, in the interest of objective & unbiased reporting.

Nope, they ALL have been making it very, extremely, clear and apparent in each of their FBI contacts that they were ALL unarmed, they are looking only towards peaceful resolution.

 

[TheTexan]

Did Bundy & crew even have guns? I don't see anything in CNN about them having guns. Maybe CNN chose to leave that detail out, in the interest of objective & unbiased reporting.

This detail seems to be conspicuously missing from all the news stories?

Oh well, it's probably safe to assume that the militants were indeed carrying weapons. I mean, they are militants after all.

Probably assault weapons. Automatic, maybe. But the weapons were definitely black. Or so I assume, given the lack of information.

 

[Weston White]

To rescue two men who didn't want saving?

We knew this would happen. Bundy should have left when they said more than half the people in that area either worked for the federal wildlife agencies or personally knew someone who did. He should have left when the Hammonds turned themselves in without a whimper. He should have left when he made his point and the Committee of Safety which he helped establish asked him to leave.

Now we have some good patriots in jail because they wasted their stand on people who embrace their own shackles.

But this is a national issue, the feds, through the BLM claims proprietorship of 50% or more of all Western states.

 

[TheTexan]

Nope, they ALL have been making it very, extremely, clear and apparent in each of their FBI contacts that they were ALL unarmed, they are looking only towards peaceful resolution.

I guess they mistook the man's unarmed hands over his head for semi-automatic assault weapons.

Its an easy mistake to make.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Interesting:



http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...t-group-leader-ammon-bundy-arrested/79380650/

Also: http://theweek.com/speedreads/597546/oregon-standoff-leader-ammon-bundy-once-took-federal-loan

Oregon standoff leader Ammon Bundy once took out a federal loan

Ammon Bundy runs a Phoenix-based company called Valet Fleet Services LLC, which specializes in repairing and maintaining fleets of semitrucks throughout Arizona. On April 15, 2010 — Tax Day, as it happens — Bundy's business borrowed $530,000 through a Small Business Administration loan guarantee program. The available public record does not indicate what the loan was used for or whether it was repaid. The SBA website notes that this loan guarantee was issued under a program "to aid small businesses which are unable to obtain financing in the private credit marketplace." The government estimated that this subsidy could cost taxpayers $22,419. Bundy did not respond to an email request for comment about the SBA loan. [Mother Jones]

 

[sparebulb]

This detail seems to be conspicuously missing from all the news stories?

Oh well, it's probably safe to assume that the militants were indeed carrying weapons. I mean, they are militants after all.

Probably assault weapons. Automatic, maybe. But the weapons were definitely black. Or so I assume, given the lack of information.

Officers can't take the chance that they aren't armed.

After all, they were known terrorists.