Shots fired, Bundy arrested

[69360]

The Sheriff rolled over for the Feds from the beginning. He abrogated his elected authority. They were in route to a peaceful meeting. The only reason this went down the way it did is because the Feds decided it would go down like this. It didn't have to.

They may have been en route to a meeting, but they had previously broken laws and were subject to a lawful arrest. I think going into this they had to know they would eventually be arrested.

I'm not opposed to militias. I'm not opposed to what went down at the Bundy ranch. But this time in these circumstances, they should have went home before somebody got killed.

 

[FrancisMarion]

Just doesn't seem smart to me to leave the refuge. Especially with small numbers. Where were the thousands of three %'s to provide security? Guess we will find out in the end who was riding coat tails for free exposure.

I'm thinking the Feds want this wrapped up. I bet the refuge is frantic right now.

 

[phill4paul]

They may have been en route to a meeting, but they had previously broken laws and were subject to a lawful arrest. I think going into this they had to know they would eventually be arrested.

I'm not opposed to militias. I'm not opposed to what went down at the Bundy ranch. But this time in these circumstances, they should have went home before somebody got killed.

Whatever, I really don't give a rat's ass what you think, I'm just updating with info as this proceeds.

 

[phill4paul]

Just doesn't seem smart to me to leave the refuge. Especially with small numbers. Where were the thousands of three %'s to provide security? Guess we will find out in the end who was riding coat tails for free exposure.

I'm thinking the Feds want this wrapped up. I bet the refuge is frantic right now.

Supposedly the Feds have converged on the center. Don't really know what that means though...

Federal law enforcement officers converged on the wildlife refuge after the arrests and were expected to remain at the site throughout the night. It was unclear how many members of the armed group, if any, were at the refuge when the law enforcement officers arrived.

http://katu.com/news/local/leader-of-oregon-occupation-ammon-bundy-three-others-arrested

 

[Bryan]

Choose your battles wisely and live to fight another day.

There is a lot of wisdom in that but each person has their own perspective and own lines. We will all do well to understand our own and respect each others. No easy answers here but open dialog does help one gain clarity.

This is all very tragic. A life was lost.

 

[69360]

Just doesn't seem smart to me to leave the refuge. Especially with small numbers. Where were the thousands of three %'s to provide security? Guess we will find out in the end who was riding coat tails for free exposure.

I'm thinking the Feds want this wrapped up. I bet the refuge is frantic right now.

If history has taught us anything, they should get out of there before the feds gas, bomb or burn them out.

 

[TomtheTinker]

What I know there is a very small minority of people in this country who are sick of what's happening all around them. I wouldn't be surprised if situations like this become more common. I don't know the details or the legalities of this situation but am very sympathetic to these men. Also do know from my own research that the original situation in nevada, that the bundy family had some legit grevionces.

 

[phill4paul]

Les Zaitz ‏@LesZaitz 11m11 minutes ago
Occupier Jason Patrick at the refuge: We’re all standing here ready to defend our peaceful resolution.

https://twitter.com/LesZaitz

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It happened in the middle of no where I am assuming? 70 miles away from the meeting they were headed to.


lets take a look back down memory lame :
Waco Texas
Ruby Ridge
Ed and Elaine Brown NH (recent years)

is there anything the FBI ,federal marshalls and paramilitary assholes won't do? FUCK every one of them

 

[CaptainAmerica]

the PAIUTE tribe is going to be used as a proxy mouth piece to turn the protestors into pure 100 percent evil whitey villain...thats exactly whats happening right now in the media, despite the PAIUTE tribe's artifacts being locked up by federal government as "crime scene evidence" and rotting in mice feces.

 

[FrancisMarion]

All of them are facing federal felony charges of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties, through the use of force, intimidation or threats.

Hmmmm.

 

[pcosmar]

is there anything the FBI ,federal marshalls and paramilitary assholes won't do? FUCK every one of them

they didn't want their "discussion" recorded by media?

 

[69360]

It happened in the middle of no where I am assuming? 70 miles away from the meeting they were headed to.


lets take a look back down memory lame :
Waco Texas
Ruby Ridge
Ed and Elaine Brown NH (recent years)

is there anything the FBI ,federal marshalls and paramilitary assholes won't do? FUCK every one of them

I think it's very possible the feds will raid the place and kill more people. There are very few consequences when they overstep athority. The fed who killed Randy Weaver's wife was indicted but the case was dropped The Weavers did get a settlement from the feds, but money isn't justice.

 

[Danke]

If history has taught us anything, they should get out of there before the feds gas, bomb or burn them out.

 

[Dianne]

So we have about 320 million people living in the United States. So each of us owns 320-millionths (not even accounting for all the non U.S. citizens in the country). So why are these people being removed when they own a fraction of the land. The Federal Government doesn't own shit. We the people own the property. As long as you believe the Feds own chit, and it doesn't belong to you and I................ we are f'ked.

Get it through your head, the Feds are our servants. They own nothing. We the people all have a divisible interest in all property the Federal Government calls its own.

 

[phill4paul]

With the Feds moving in on the refuge and the occupiers refusing to back down I suppose we will find out if the O.K.s and III% were all bluster about "No more Free Wacos."
Since I haven't heard anything from the III% and I'm assuming they've gone dark and are moving into positions even now. I pray so.

 

[phill4paul]

BREAKING:

Update: Talk Network Executive Producer Dean Ryan just spoke to Deb Jordan.. Pete Santilli co-host. She said Lavoy Finicum was shot cold blooded and un-armed.
Pete Santilli was arrested after pleaing with the FBI to allow him to set up a convoy to save the women and children in the refuge.
Deb told Dean Ryan that Feds are arresting everybody and fears they will shoot all inside refuge including women & children
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=795717573872774&id=422296034548265

 

[Dianne]

Well I own 360 millionth of that land, and I was never asked if I wanted them removed.. Were you?

 

[pcosmar]

Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum

Dead.

Shot three times with his hands on his head.

It was no gunfight. it was an ambush.

 

[phill4paul]

LaVoyandjeanette Finicum
2 mins ·
This is LaVoy Finicums daughter, Thara Tenney posting this. Please share.

LaVoy Finicum's Stand For Freedom
13 mins · Eagle Mountain, UT ·
LaVoy Finicum has been murdered. LaVoy's hands were in the air and he was shot in the face. Ammon Bundy reported there were 6 witneses. This evil doing must be told to everyone.

https://www.facebook.com/lavoy.finicum