Sending Super Brochures to Huckabee Counties in Iowa

Oddone said:
This is a good idea. But doesn't the Super Voter Bomb send out this Brochure along with a letter from Tom Woods, and a For Liberty DvD? Dunno it might be better to put the money into the Super Voter Bomb right now as they are sending to the same people. Either way I guess this can't hurt.
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That's why I waited a few days to make this thread. Iowa is nearly half completed on the Super Voter Bomb site and donations are picking up.
 
lucent said:
They aren't sending it to the same people. They said they coordinated to send it to two different groups of people.
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Yup, my understanding is these are voters who would otherwise not receive anything.
 
Eric21ND said:
Yup, my understanding is these are voters who would otherwise not receive anything.
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That's not right. Whenever you purchase precincts, they get grayed out and RevPac won't send anything to these voters because they would have already had received a brochure. It wouldn't be economically efficient to send them the brochure and the RevPac information packet. BOTH target supervoters. imho, it would be much better to send them the package with the DVD, brochure, and letter than just the brochure by itself.
 
lucent said:
I think AdamT said these weren't supervoters, but registered Republicans.
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I don't think he ever said that, but I can't speak for AdamT.

These go to supervoters, not just any Republican. Both sites are specifically targeting supervoters.

http://www.ronpaulproducts.com/mailing.html
"Now you can mail the Ron Paul Super Brochure directly to all Republican Super-Voters* in Florida, Iowa, and New Hampshire!"
 
We need clarification on that then. I don't want to supplant a voter getting a brochure when they could've gotten a brochure, DVD, and letter.
 
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SchleckBros said:
I don't think he ever said that, but I can't speak for AdamT.

These go to supervoters, not just any Republican. Both sites are specifically targeting supervoters.

http://www.ronpaulproducts.com/mailing.html
"Now you can mail the Ron Paul Super Brochure directly to all Republican Super-Voters* in Florida, Iowa, and New Hampshire!"
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That text is old, before they coordinated. The two lists they paid for are different. One is a list of supervoters that RevPAC got and registered Republicans that Ron Paul products got.
 
lucent said:
That text is old, before they coordinated. The two lists they paid for are different. One is a list of supervoters that RevPAC got and registered Republicans that Ron Paul products got.
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Link? I hope you're right.

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http://www.ronpaulproducts.com/precinctiowa.html
"Mail the Ron Paul Super Brochure directly to all Republican Super-Voters* in your neighborhood or anywhere else in Iowa!
(Prices include brochures, postage & processing)"
 
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I don't have much cash these days but decided to pick up three small precincts in (rural) Iowa; and please hear me out... I chose very small precincts feeling that if the area is that rural/small/spread out, my mailing may be the only contact this voter gets with any candidate, whereas in Des Moines city limits they are bombarded with TV, radio, mailings, door-to-door, etc.

I think the smallest, most rural areas may only need a brochure if they are undecided, IMO.

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ia-Clayton Precincts:BV
Item# BV $7.70 USD 1 $7.70 USD
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ia-Howard Precincts:RC
Item# RC $11.00 USD 1 $11.00 USD
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ia-Johnson Precincts:LN
Item# LN $10.45 USD 1 $10.45 USD
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I also tossed in $12 for the RevPAC project, but I like having the power to pick a mailing place, it makes it feel less arbitrary.
 
So what's the target here? Which counties are people going after? I might buy up some Harrison county later, no one has bought any yet. It went to Romney in 08' but Ron also got like 12% there.
 
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braane said:
So what's the target here? Which counties are people going after? I might buy up some Harrison county later, no one has bought any yet. It went to Romney in 08' but Ron also got like 12% there.
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The more rural the area the better, IMHO.
 
I agree the supervoter bomb is a great project but it is essentially the same thing (these are mailed to supervoters also) and its almost 3 times the cost per mailing because it includes a copy of For Liberty. I'd rather hit more addresses with a lesser mailing than leave thousands of addresses with no contact at all.

Not to mention the supervoter bomb is run by RevPAC; a group which I thought was gathering money from wealthy do-gooders, right? So why then are they seemingly taking money from the general RP Supporters? Their job isn't mass public fundraising, its to spend the large donations from the elite few. RevPAC's money should come in without us supporters even knowing who, where, where it came from; that's the good thing about SuperPACs, they are in addition to Official Campaigns and Grassroots, right? If they can't fund it already, why not just let the official campaign pump for donors and fulfill this project themselves?

Please, I'm not trying to be rude or harsh but really think about it, superpacs are for doing, not for seeking small donations. I'd prefer seeing a $100 min donation on their site, because anyone who can give $2500 to the campaign surely wouldn't mind that minimum, and anyone who hasn't given $2500 to the campaign should be discouraged from the SuperPAC.

I hope today's big announcement is that they've gotten a big donation.
 
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LibertyAirwaves said:
I agree the supervoter bomb is a great project but it is essentially the same thing (these is mailed to supervoters also) and its almost 3 times the cost per mailing because it includes a copy of For Liberty. I'd rather hit more addresses with a lesser mailing than leave thousands of addresses with no contact at all.

Not to mention the supervoter bomb is run by RevPAC; a group which I thought was gathering money from wealthy do-gooders, right? So why then are they seemingly taking money from the general RP Supporters? Their job isn't mass public fundraising, its to spend the large donations from the elite few. RevPAC's money should come in without us supporters even knowing who, where, where it came from; that's the good thing about SuperPACs, they are in addition to Official Campaigns and Grassroots, right? If they can't fund it already, why not just let the official campaign pump for donors and fulfill this project themselves?

Please, I'm not trying to be rude or harsh but really think about it, superpacs are for doing, not for seeking small donations. I'd prefer seeing a $100 min donation on their site, because anyone who can give $2500 to the campaign surely wouldn't mind that minimum, and anyone who hasn't given $2500 to the campaign should be discouraged from the SuperPAC.

I hope today's big announcement is that they've gotten a big donation.
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Iowa is our #1 priority and the SuperVoter Bomb can hit up every Supervoter in Iowa if it reaches its goal. I think mailing the brochure (by itself) would be great to mail for other states because it is cost effective, but I'd rather give Iowans as much material about Ron Paul as they can get.

RevPAC is mainly a group that gathers money from wealthy donors, correct. However it is important to keep the two projects separate. The wealthy donors are helping to fund RevPAC and its various projects such as online/TV advertising. The SuperVoter Bomb is a project of RevPAC but it is mainly being funded by the grassroots. We don't want people getting these mailings knowing that they are mainly funded by big shots and corporations. These mailings and such are supported by us and that is important. By paying for precincts your just preventing SuperVoters in Iowa from getting the DVD and letter from Tom Woods.
 
I'm sure Rev Pac and the Brochure guys down in Florida are smart enough not to send a person double mailings.
 
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