See This Guy Get Through a DUI Checkpoint Without Saying a Word

[PaulConventionWV]

Truth be told, the likely reason they let him through completely unmolested is they figured just by looking at it it was a YouTube stunt by a liberty person. We've kinda become a trope by now.

Good enough for me. If it works, what's the difference?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Good enough for me. If it works, what's the difference?

Cop thinks it's a YouTube stunt, doesn't want to get on YouTube. Go along your way.

Cop thinks it's a drunk trying to get out of a DUI, broken glass, tasers and batons ensue.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

ok!!!!!!

 

[osan]

Not sure I see it that way. The paper he is showing is conditioning him to exercise his right in a very specific manner. I believe that the problem here. I believe the Supreme Court has interpreted a recent criminal case that if a person does not invoke very specifically his or her rights then they have been waived or otherwise would not have put a police officier on notice, then the police did not do something wrong.

I suspect the average American understands they have "rights" but they do not know how to constitutionally invoke them. The paper held up does that very clearly. So the problem is that the courts are demanding that people exercise their rights a "proper way" versus holding police accountable to recognizing people rights and changes THEIR behaviors. Placing the burden on the people.

This is precisely correct. We ought not have to invoke them under such circumstances. The fact that we have to defend ourselves from the whim and caprice of these dangerous mobsters known as "cops" is a fundamental and very serious problem. SCOTUS are an unreliable raft, getting their rulings and opinions wrong at least as often as they get them partially right.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I am wondering whether the flyer might be improved:

I remain silent.

If you articulate your reasonable suspicion or probable cause for demanding my ID, I will produce them.

If you do not, am I free to go?

If I am not free to go, on what basis are you detaining me?

I want my lawyer.

You are being recorded.

[Leave the other, relevant cites for respective states intact.]
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Just off the top of me pointy.

Thoughts?

 

[osan]

Cop thinks it's a drunk trying to get out of a DUI, broken glass, tasers and batons ensue.

A sucky outcome to be sure, but one that could potentially cost them significantly... not that they give a tinker's damn at the moment of truth.

The real hazard here, of course, is the roid rage gets out of hand and either they maim you viciously or just say "fuck it, I don't have time for this" and kill you outright.

 

[Schifference]

I would bet if you were by yourself and pretty f*cked up the outcome might be different.

 

[tmg19103]

Some states require you to roll down your window at least a bit. Some don't. I live in PA and you don't have to. Last two DUI checkpoints I went through I did not roll down my window and stared straight ahead with saying anything and ignored the cop tapping on my window. Both times the cop called a supervisor over and after a few minutes of me staring straight ahead with my window closed they let me go. And I don't even drink alcohol, so that was not a concern.

Now, be careful with this as some states require to to at least roll your window down a bit. I have cameras all over my car that record to the cloud. I'm just waiting for these bozos to smash my window and falsely arrest me so I can get it all over YouTube and publicly shame them, but so far I give them begrudging credit for handling it properly.

 

[Dianne]

lol that was pretty damn cool.

 

[presence]

+1776
Is freedom learning how to win?

YES! VICTIM MENTALITY IS WHY PEOPLE ARE VICTIMIZED BY THE STATE!

 

[PRB]

Cop thinks it's a YouTube stunt, doesn't want to get on YouTube. Go along your way.

Cop thinks it's a drunk trying to get out of a DUI, broken glass, tasers and batons ensue.

Good point, my next stunt will be me holding a sign "This is a youtube stunt" I swear it'll go well!

 

[PRB]

lol that was pretty damn cool.

giving your license before being asked is far from cool and not at all more private than waiting to be asked and "saying words".