S----- going down. Top of Drudge.

[Barrex]

Well, we didn't.

Because Russians retreated...Will US retreat?

 

[NOVALibertarian]

the only question is how bad WW3 will be then.

“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” ― Albert Einstein

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

It's all propaganda by Washington DC and their public relations firms aka American media.

Sensationalism and fear to increase ratings to continue Palov's Bell on the American Sheeple.

State of Fear... Funny last night watching one of Schwarzenegger films, (RUNNING MAN)... how he was setup by .gov and how the media/.gov manipulates the masses through airwaves.

 

[Athan]

Help! Can't post link from phone. USA and China mobilizing near NK...

 

[osan]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/01/china-mobilizing-troops-jets-near-n-korean-border/

 

[RockEnds]

If it makes you feel better, I am in the Army and stationed in S. Korea, I know nothing about any of this. No alerts, no standbys, all the civilians and dependants are still here. If it weren't for drudge and his fearmongering I wouldn't know anything about any of this.

It does, actually.

 

[KingNothing]

Because Russians retreated...Will US retreat?

That isn't what happened. We did a better job at gaming the media and world than the Russians did, but we pulled some of our missiles away from their boarder and they reciprocated. It was gamesmanship. The trouble with that is, as has been said, a mistake is bound to happen at some point. The odds of it are microscopic, but the consequences would be catastrophic.

 

[KingNothing]

Sooner or later it is BOUND to BE different. One doesn't have to be a doomsday prepper (I nominally am) or a religious "end times" zealot (I'm definitely not) to see that our foreign policy is turning much of the world into one giant powder keg. Eventually there's going to be a spark, the only question is how bad WW3 will be then.

It isn't our foreign policy that is doing this. It's game theory, posturing, and political maneuvering. This is what humans, particularly those in power, do. Hell, this particular approach is nothing new -- it's an example of the madman theory, used repeatedly by Cuddly Korean's father, and such other dignitaries as Richard Nixon.

 

[Barrex]

That isn't what happened. We did a better job at gaming the media and world than the Russians did, but we pulled some of our missiles away from their boarder and they reciprocated. It was gamesmanship. The trouble with that is, as has been said, a mistake is bound to happen at some point. The odds of it are microscopic, but the consequences would be catastrophic.

That deal was embarrassment for Kruschov.U2 in Russia airspace, betraying Cuba...At one point russian submarine had nuclear torpedo ready to be launched... I wouldnt call that microscopic odds. North Korea is unpredictable and US playing on their borders makes it even worse.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

North Korea is unpredictable and US playing on their borders makes it even worse.

I predict Kim Jong Un is a fat, well fed, pampered man. It would have to be something very serious for him to risk his position, because let's face it, if the CIA really wanted him dead, he'd be dead. Don't believe everything the MSM tells you.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Iran and North Korea war propaganda are closely related.

Iran-North Korea Pact Draws Concern

 

[Todd]

If it makes you feel better, I am in the Army and stationed in S. Korea, I know nothing about any of this. No alerts, no standbys, all the civilians and dependants are still here. If it weren't for drudge and his fearmongering I wouldn't know anything about any of this.

^ This

The Norks aren't doing anything much different than what they did in the late 90's. Except now it's getting more attention by the media and other nations are starting to making some noise back.

 

[mosquitobite]

I can't believe people still believe any major US media sources...

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I can't believe people still believe any major US media sources...

Fear is a powerful drug. There really is a science behind their propaganda. It's been studied and perfected over decades.

 

[abacabb]

You'd think they are trying to build up for a war, but no way we would attack a Chinese ally. Probably an excuse to attack Iran.

 

[osan]

That was my first thought as well. I doubt China would go to war against the US over North Korea.

They may have to. Unless we are as retarded as we were in 1950, this round would be decidedly different. I would strike every military installation north of the 38th. This can be done surgically and if DC wanted to make a sharper point, a couple of saturation raids a-al-arclight over Pyongyang could be easily arranged.

If we assume this, then NK is going down in fucking flames. Absolute, utter decimation for their military. If THAT happens, what will result? Would SK take over the north, absorbing them as W. Germany did with the east? If perchance that came to pass, China would not be a happy camper as there is virtually zero doubt that the USA would build several more front-line bases in the north... but to what end? See the problem there for China?

This is all very unsettling because if that little runt, the better part of which ran down his mama's leg the night he was conceived, carries out his threats the US will in theory be obliged to respond in SK's defense. I seriously doubt China will sit idly by... unless of course this is all scripted political theater, and it may well be. But if not, we stand to have a very big cluster copulation on our hands and I see NO WAY we can fight a major two-front/two-hemisphere war. We barely pulled it of in the 1940s when we were at our industrial apex. Today with our economy on bottled O2 and a walker, war with NK and China could prove very bad for us.

And God only knows what that low IQ nitwit in the Oval Office might do. He is certainly no friend of ours so I'd call it anyone's guess at this stage how this would all turn out, but I doubt it would be terribly helpful to anyone.

The only other possibility that I see, and it is thinly remote, is that once the breach is made and shit starts flying, what is the likelihood that huge masses of NK troops would drop their arms and run across the border for the sake of a free Big Mac, fries, and a coke? Sounds crazy, but those poor stupid bastards have been hating it for 60 years and all else aside, they are still human beings and I bet the food shortage thing is not a favorite no matter how used to it one may be.

At any rate, in for a penny, in for a pound. I say let the artillery shells fly and let us then see how things d/evolve. Who knows, this may be the scare that Joe Average needs to get him out of the mall and back into reality... NAH... never happen.

 

[Barrex]

I predict Kim Jong Un is a fat, well fed, pampered man. It would have to be something very serious for him to risk his position, because let's face it, if the CIA really wanted him dead, he'd be dead. Don't believe everything the MSM tells you.

I dont believe your MSM. I watch/read/listen a lot of stuff from different countris and languages. Truth is not that hard to find (at least regarding this).

 

[KingNothing]

They may have to. Unless we are as retarded as we were in 1950, this round would be decidedly different. I would strike every military installation north of the 38th. This can be done surgically and if DC wanted to make a sharper point, a couple of saturation raids a-al-arclight over Pyongyang could be easily arranged.

If we assume this, then NK is going down in fucking flames. Absolute, utter decimation for their military. If THAT happens, what will result? Would SK take over the north, absorbing them as W. Germany did with the east? If perchance that came to pass, China would not be a happy camper as there is virtually zero doubt that the USA would build several more front-line bases in the north... but to what end? See the problem there for China?

This is all very unsettling because if that little runt, the better part of which ran down his mama's leg the night he was conceived, carries out his threats the US will in theory be obliged to respond in SK's defense. I seriously doubt China will sit idly by... unless of course this is all scripted political theater, and it may well be. But if not, we stand to have a very big cluster copulation on our hands and I see NO WAY we can fight a major two-front/two-hemisphere war. We barely pulled it of in the 1940s when we were at our industrial apex. Today with our economy on bottled O2 and a walker, war with NK and China could prove very bad for us.

And God only knows what that low IQ nitwit in the Oval Office might do. He is certainly no friend of ours so I'd call it anyone's guess at this stage how this would all turn out, but I doubt it would be terribly helpful to anyone.

The only other possibility that I see, and it is thinly remote, is that once the breach is made and shit starts flying, what is the likelihood that huge masses of NK troops would drop their arms and run across the border for the sake of a free Big Mac, fries, and a coke? Sounds crazy, but those poor stupid bastards have been hating it for 60 years and all else aside, they are still human beings and I bet the food shortage thing is not a favorite no matter how used to it one may be.

At any rate, in for a penny, in for a pound. I say let the artillery shells fly and let us then see how things d/evolve. Who knows, this may be the scare that Joe Average needs to get him out of the mall and back into reality... NAH... never happen.

This makes no sense.

China does not care what happens to North Korea. They owe nothing to the North Koreans. If we did decide to attack the North, China would only care insofar as they feared it would lead to an attack on their homeland, which it wouldn't. They'd sit back, scold us, and pay lip-service to our belligerence, but they would do nothing significant. They couldn't. Their military is nothing compared to ours, and their economy needs America buying their cheap goods. If we stopped doing so, their economy would fall apart and the already-absurd number of riots they have every day would mushroom. With that said, we will not attack the North. It isn't good economics for us, either. There's nothing there. They're poverty-stricken and have no oil. Why would we want to obliterate and invade a nation of brainwashed poor people?

We protect the South to keep it free for corporatism, and at one time to keep it free from Soviet influence lest it fall like a Domino. We hold it now to project influence. To that end, additional bases in the North would add very little.

And what would the North stand to gain from an attack on the South or on the US? Instant destruction. It would be an unmitigated disaster. They won't do it.

Nothing is going to happen. Ignore the fear-mongering pimp, Matt Drudge.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I dont believe your MSM. I watch/read/listen a lot of stuff from different countris and languages. Truth is not that hard to find (at least regarding this).

What brand of news do you listen to.. Rupert Murdoch's? Propaganda is all around and the variety of reports are all the same or rather, have the same reason for being written and worded the way they are. I find it hard to believe that a man who is eating shark fin soup and drinking expensive cognacs, traveling to basketball games and having sex with whores has any motives to jeopardize that. I know I wouldn't. His rhetoric is for his countrymen. Blame the US so that they don't realize he is a big reason why their living standard is where it is and they don't rise up and kill him. If the CIA seriously wanted him dead, he would be dead.. or there would be a promoted uprising. I haven't heard much of North Korean scientists being assassinated. Why is that? Could it possibly be because of the location of Iran compared to North Korea? North Korea is a joke. Their animation videos are hilarious. And I am supposed to believe this country has EMP technology that can disable the lower 48 states? What did they do, accidently set one off in their own damn country? lmao. It's so blown out of proportion I get tired of addressing it. Given our current glass-making technologies, Kim Jong Un would be wise to tone his rhetoric down just a tad. No one here takes him serious. (except for the uninformed and/or propagandized) Even the MSM war mongerers point out that Kim Jong Un is known for his 'bellicose rhetoric.'

And for the record, I am tired of paying taxes so we can provide Kim Jong Un with free boat expos and aerial acrobatics shows. I didn't want the damn B-2 in the first place, the expensive, useless, piece of shit. It was bought and sold around the time I was born. ASonofLiberty asked a very good question in another thread. Do you carry blame for the Ustaše?

 

[-C-]

Why does China still support North Korea? Do they feel like North Korea is their retarded little brother or something?

Why does Russia still support Syria? Well its for the same reason that China supports NK. Apparently you can't see that the US/British/French are running strategic operations to curb the influence, and interests, of both Russia and China, which are the current targets of the Trans-Atlantic imperial system. Their political leaders and military leaders both know this, and have clearly expressed knowledge of the operations being ran against them in the mainstream.

/duh