S----- going down. Top of Drudge.

That was my first thought as well. I doubt China would go to war against the US over North Korea.

They could use something like that to trigger a collapse of the dollar. China has been positioning for some time now to take reserve currency status. A military action combined with a major dump of the dollar would be an economic coup d'etat, that Im sure China is just itching to do. The only thing stopping them I think is Chinas reliance on US trade, which is diminishing with each passing year
 
While the North does this shit all the time to extort "humanitarian aid" to feed their military while the rest of the country starves, something definitely feels different this time. It sounds like they might actually be serious this time.
 
Why does China still support North Korea? Do they feel like North Korea is their retarded little brother or something?

Good question. Here's another: why does the US still support South Korea?

I'm no foreign policy expert, but I suspect the answers to these questions might be related ...
 
Here's my thought. North Korea, as sucky as it is, is still a satellite of China. China is today collecting a lot of other client states on the premise that it is powerful enough economically and militarily to protect them from the big bad U.S.A. The U.S. is flexing muscle to reassure South Korea. China is flexing muscle to reassure not just North Korea, but Iran and who knows where else. With muscles sufficiently flexed, both the U.S. end the exercises without incident.
 
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China gives nominal support to NK for four major reasons:

1) Collapse of NK means massive refugee flows that China does not want to deal with.
2) NK is nominally ideologically aligned with China, both being "Communist" in name
3) NK is a great distraction for US/SK/Japanese military forces that would otherwise be trained on/deployed against China.
4) It's much better for China to have a weak NK on their border than a strong, unified, western-aligned Korea.
 
Here's my thought. North Korea, as sucky as it is, is still a satellite of China. China is today collecting a lot of other client states on the premise that it is powerful enough economically and militarily to protect them from the big bad U.S.A. The U.S. is flexing muscle to reassure South Korea. China is flexing muscle to reassure not just North Korea, but Iran and who knows where else. With muscles sufficiently flexed, both the U.S. end the exercises without incident.

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If it makes you feel better, I am in the Army and stationed in S. Korea, I know nothing about any of this. No alerts, no standbys, all the civilians and dependants are still here. If it weren't for drudge and his fearmongering I wouldn't know anything about any of this.
 
If it makes you feel better, I am in the Army and stationed in S. Korea, I know nothing about any of this. No alerts, no standbys, all the civilians and dependants are still here. If it weren't for drudge and his fearmongering I wouldn't know anything about any of this.

Thanks for the report. Drudge is definitely melodramatic. I don't think NK has any nefarious plans at the moment. They know that they will be wiped out within hours and China isn't going to step in to help them.
 
It was a repeat topic all day on CNBC.

One guest was funny, at the end he went out of his way to say that North Korea is a true existential threat to South Korea, unlike Iran, which is not a real threat to Israel. (His words). Probably the last time he's a guest on any network. But the point is good. In the back room discussions, the the real agenda is probably out: this about Iran, not North Korea. This guy felt obliged to counter that, which means that it is probably being discussed behind the scenes. Demonize NK, and then use that for justification for action against Iran.
 
While the North does this shit all the time to extort "humanitarian aid" to feed their military while the rest of the country starves, something definitely feels different this time. It sounds like they might actually be serious this time.

Perhaps Kim Jung-Un is George Bush Jr. reincarnate. Attempting to succeed where his father failed.

This is all just a bunch of saber rattling and precautionary measures. That fat little munchkin needs to get a life and stop being the little whiner that he is. I lived in the South and my brother lives there now. We had this conversation yesterday on Skype and this isn't going anywhere. It's business as usual.
 
Another point not mentioned is that this is an annual occurrence. Operation Key Resolve has been going on in S. Korea every March for DECADES. Every year we go through this.
 
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China supported N Korea first time, I'm certain it will do it again.

Our Foreign Policy was hijacked on 911 & that nothing has changed since.
 
"but this time it feels different!"

Sooner or later it is BOUND to BE different. One doesn't have to be a doomsday prepper (I nominally am) or a religious "end times" zealot (I'm definitely not) to see that our foreign policy is turning much of the world into one giant powder keg. Eventually there's going to be a spark, the only question is how bad WW3 will be then.
 
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