RPF veterans...what was it like in the beginning?

[bunklocoempire]

individual growth > group "wins" was the vibe and encouraged

Member of the 2007 walk away movement, after the Ron vs Rudy "I was there on 9-11" Giuliani & msm tag team debate moment.

Not much for walk aways 10 years on. (that I can tell)
And these days, a Giuliani appointment is excused as a 47d chess move.


NOBP

 

[Swordsmyth]

My thinking has not changed much about things in general, but I found out Ron was very wrong about a critical and vital idea that his whole candidacy and this movement based itself on.

Freedom is NOT popular.

The people have been led away from freedom, they can be led back to it but we need to understand how to lead them in order to do so, Trump is a good but not quite perfect template.

 

[oyarde]

I am thinking that freedom is not as popular as the Good Dr. and I had hoped , but I will continue to exercise mine and lead by example .

 

[osan]

My thinking has not changed much about things in general, but I found out Ron was very wrong about a critical and vital idea that his whole candidacy and this movement based itself on.

Freedom is NOT popular.

Bingo. Give the man a cigar.

 

[osan]

Too true.

But Ron Paul often talked about something else: The Remnant. Originally a concept discussed by Albert Jay Nock, it refers to the small group of people who keep the spark of the ideas Liberty and human progress alive. This is the only thing that gives me hope in the current environment. I never would have dreamed 10 years ago about the bitter divisions and the evil embrace of authoritarianism that have come about.


From an essay by Lew Rockwell from 2012:



https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/06/thomas-woods/ron-pauls-task/

We are the remnant.

 

[jllundqu]

We are the remnant.

Humans are fickle things.

I think Ron Paul was right. Freedom was popular... however seeing that logic and reason often give way to charlatans selling fear and emotion... when Ron Paul was kicked to the wayside, many let their emotions turn to anger, and Trump was swept into office.

I still hold that Tytler's Cycle of Democracies holds true. There isn't much this country can do to avoid the pain that's coming. Ron Paul could've post-poned things a little, Trump may do the same. In the end I think it will result in positive change. We will have some serious hard times ahead, but humans have always met the challenge. Let us hope we are still able to do so. What this country needs is more strong hard men, and you know what they say... hard times create strong men. We can be thankful, in a way, for the coming hard times.

 

[timosman]

 

[osan]

Humans are fickle things.

I think Ron Paul was right. Freedom was popular... however seeing that logic and reason often give way to charlatans selling fear and emotion... when Ron Paul was kicked to the wayside, many let their emotions turn to anger, and Trump was swept into office.

I still hold that Tytler's Cycle of Democracies holds true. There isn't much this country can do to avoid the pain that's coming. Ron Paul could've post-poned things a little, Trump may do the same. In the end I think it will result in positive change. We will have some serious hard times ahead, but humans have always met the challenge. Let us hope we are still able to do so. What this country needs is more strong hard men, and you know what they say... hard times create strong men. We can be thankful, in a way, for the coming hard times.

As things stand at the moment, there will be no correction without bloodshed, possibly lots of it. The "left" shows no inclination to reason, respect, and backing off from their march of incursion into the territories of free men, but only to raw emotion, bitter envy, hate, and increasing the pace of advance. That leaves those upon whom they seek to trample with a choice: lay down or fight. I for one have no intentions of laying down.

Tytler's cycle needs to be amended to include "kill the bastards".

 

[francisco]

We are the remnant.

Some of us. Others have been co-opted by Authoritarians.

 

[Original_Intent]

One of the coolest things was the true diversity of thought and that we could all get along and get behind the Ron Paul movement. I mean, we had pro choicers working side by side with pro-lifers, strictly religious tee-totalers being friends with people who had ingested or injected God knows what into their bodies. I mean there was some jostling around and some discussions, but the bottom line was we were all committed to something, and we knew it was bigger than our differences.

 

[Anti Federalist]

One of the coolest things was the true diversity of thought and that we could all get along and get behind the Ron Paul movement. I mean, we had pro choicers working side by side with pro-lifers, strictly religious tee-totalers being friends with people who had ingested or injected God knows what into their bodies. I mean there was some jostling around and some discussions, but the bottom line was we were all committed to something, and we knew it was bigger than our differences.

That was refreshing.

It breaks my heart to see some of those same people now marching in the streets calling for, what amounts to, my extermination.

 

[CCTelander]

That was refreshing.

It breaks my heart to see some of those same people now marching in the streets calling for, what amounts to, my extermination.

And for my part, it breaks MY heart to see at least one of "those same people," on this very board, calling for me and people like me to be thrown from helicopters. Can't make an omelette ... I guess.

ETA: The person in question deliberately mislabels anyone who disagrees with him, particularly on immigration, as a communist and frequently opines that here in the US communists should be thrown from helicopters. Very few ever call him out on it. Just sayin.

 

[Anti Federalist]

And for my part, it breaks MY heart to see at least one of "those same people," on this very board, calling for me and people like me to be thrown from helicopters. Can't make an omelette ... I guess.

ETA: The person in question deliberately mislabels anyone who disagrees with him, particularly on immigration, as a communist and frequently opines that here in the US communists should be thrown from helicopters. Very few ever call him out on it. Just sayin.

In spite of a few heated remarks thrown my way, I haven't had that happen to me here.

I'm thinking the "Occupy" crowd, that some of tried to reach out to.

I've corrected both sides on this.

 

[CCTelander]

In spite of a few heated remarks thrown my way, I haven't had that happen to me here.

I'm thinking the "Occupy" crowd, that some of tried to reach out to.

I've corrected both sides on this.

Was more using your comment as a springboard than actually directing my comments at you. But it's obvious to me that all sides have their insane, bloodthirsty assclowns and failing to hold those on one's own side accountable for that kind of idiocy amounts to, or at least appears to be, tacit approval. I haven't seen you call the moron in question out on this, but I have no difficulty believing that you would if you saw him doing it.

 

[Origanalist]

And for my part, it breaks MY heart to see at least one of "those same people," on this very board, calling for me and people like me to be thrown from helicopters. Can't make an omelette ... I guess.

ETA: The person in question deliberately mislabels anyone who disagrees with him, particularly on immigration, as a communist and frequently opines that here in the US communists should be thrown from helicopters. Very few ever call him out on it. Just sayin.

 

[CCTelander]

ROTFL!

I'd +rep you if I could.

 

[Cowlesy]

Guys, I think Abe Hamadeh is now Attorney General of Arizona??? How amazing is that!!!!!! He was just a young activist on here back in the day stumping for Ron. So psyched for him!!!!

 

[wizardwatson]

Guys, I think Abe Hamadeh is now Attorney General of Arizona??? How amazing is that!!!!!! He was just a young activist on here back in the day stumping for Ron. So psyched for him!!!!

Brett Fairchild is a state rep in KS. He has been for a while, but also won his re-election. He is a member here.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Guys, I think Abe Hamadeh is now Attorney General of Arizona??? How amazing is that!!!!!! He was just a young activist on here back in the day stumping for Ron. So psyched for him!!!!

[MENTION=2297]Cowlesy[/MENTION]

Good to see you.

Is it the same guy?

There was a Hamadeh here, but a quick search notes all his posts scrubbed and no such username.

If so, good for him.

 

[sam1952]

My thinking has not changed much about things in general, but I found out Ron was very wrong about a critical and vital idea that his whole candidacy and this movement based itself on.

Freedom is NOT popular.

I have become jaded to the term freedom. You are right, people don’t want real freedom. They only want their perception of freedom. I find whether the topic is marjuana legalization, gay marriage, the borders, second amendment (well, all the amendments), religion, heck doesn’t matter… To me real freedom is living my life my way and lettering others live theirs. Infringement of anyones freedom within the boundaries of acceptable law is the only thing of concern. People don’t want to accept that.