Ron should be talking about this Light Bulb thing

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Where in the Constitution is the federal government allowed to tell us we cannot use a certain type of light bulb?? This is insanity.
 
I'm going to take a risky political stance and say that Americans should be able to use whatever type of light bulb that they think is best for them.
 
What are you talking about?

There is a blurb on all the media outlets that the government wants to outlaw incandescent light bulbs like Australia - to save energy.


Sorry but the CFL hurts my eyes - especially the floods. I've tried it, I have CFL on the exterior of my home where I used to spend 180W an hour for 4-6 hours a night but the CFL floods give me a headache.
 
They did have an article about getting rid of the regular lightbulbs and use more expensive but energy efficient ones.
 
fluorescents sucks anyways. they take like three minutes to get warmed up.

The new CFL take seconds to warm up. If you have more than one on the same circuit, it takes longer.
I have 2 dimming CFL that take seconds to turn on and they're on the same circuit.

I tried the CFL floods and I have a circuit that has 3 in a row and it takes about 5 seconds to light up. They also gave me headaches so I returned them and vowed to never use them again - for a while.
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/usnews/071219/...as_we_know_it.html?.v=1&.pf=banking-budgeting

I don't support banning the bulb. CFLs are more efficient in the market -- they'll pay for themselves and many people buy them especially as the price comes down. The cheapest I have consistently seen them is at Costco -- much cheaper than places like Walmart. The more esoteric sizes and types Costco don't carry - I buy elsewhere. CFLs have also gotten better over time -- if you tried them only years ago - try them again.

But I can understand if some people don't like them -- let them buy the old type and pay more in electricity bills - it's their money.

Also, a ban is bad because incandescents are good in extreme temperature conditions where CFLs or even LEDs can't cope. Ovens for example. Refrigrators too (LEDs could cope there, but aren't economical enough in the inital $$/lumen compared to incandescent). Incandescent is the only reasonable way to go there.
 
This is not a question about how good one type of bulb is versus another - it's a question of whether the federal government is even allowed under the Constitution to outlaw certain lightbulbs.
 
What's new here?

The fedgov has been forcing us for years now to use toilets that don't flush, now they'll force us to use lights that don't light.

Just found out yesterday that I could no longer buy "off road" diesel fuel in my area due to winter EPA regs. So now I have to use the low sulfur "on road" crap that will eat the valve train of my backhoe engine alive.

All for our own good of course.
 
I'm going to take a risky political stance and say that Americans should be able to use whatever type of light bulb that they think is best for them.

Even if it's a nuclear lightbulb? We don't want the terrists switching out all of our lightbulbs with nuclear ones.

Oh oh...I went to check Sylvania's ownership to make sure some arabs weren't trying to sneak some ownership in so they could switch all of our lightbulbs over to their nuclear counterparts, and it's much worse than I imagined. The Japanese own Sylvannia.......that's 9/13ths of Pennsylvania! Yes, that's the same Japan that invented terrism by bombing Pearl Harbor! :eek: My intelligence thus tells me that Japan is a terrist-sponsoring nation and that they, in concert with the islamic fascists, are planning on switching our lightbulbs out with nuclear ones, which would no doubt kill us all.

So I'm calling my congressman to ask him to invade Japan (and we might as well hit North Korea while we're over there), as well as every Muslim nation...and to STRONGLY regulate lightbulbs and possibly even nationalize the lightbulb industry. Who knows what kind of America-hating messages we might see in our magazines/newspapers if Japanese-Arab nuclear light is our only light source?



Intel source: http://www.sylvaniaconsumerelectronics.com/aboutus.php

sorry, I got kind of carried away...:)
 
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My house uses many flood lights in all the common areas. Recently I've been replacing burnt out bulbs with CFL floods and visually you can't tell the difference from the standard ones once they are on. It takes them a minute to get up to full brightness but that's a small price to pay for the fact they are brighter and last way longer yet only run 15 watts compared to 75-100 watts. I can literally run 25 CFL floods at the electrical cost of less than 5 normal floods and they seldom have to be replaced.

I can't wait until they get LED technology going better for floods... those won't have any delays going on, won't have anyone sensitive to their light, they won't burn out and they'll be even cheaper to run than CFL! We are really stepping into a whole new world as far as household lighting goes.

The gov't telling us what lights we can and can't use is similar to the gov't setting gas mileage for cars. Unless there is a pressing social need the market is normally a better place to sort out that kind of thing. In this particular case I think the market is starting to tip hard into alternative lighting anyway and the gov't is just stepping in to take credit for the change.
 
In Venezuela and Cuba the governments are paying out of state funds to replace every single inefficient bulb. Both countries should be done in a couple of years from now.
 
And then they can ban CFLs cuz they are full of Mercury.. Put a couple billion of these in landfills.. So they will require hazardous waste permits to throw away (at a fee of course). It never ends if you let them start.
 
In Venezuela and Cuba the governments are paying out of state funds to replace every single inefficient bulb. Both countries should be done in a couple of years from now.

which is why George W. Bush and Hugo Chávez are more similar than they want their people to believe.

I wonder, if the other light bulbs are more efficient why is it that people is not buying them voluntarily and have to be forced by law to do it?
 
Gotta love the gov't. Not to mention they just required that all car companies have a 35mpg avg by 2020. Way to pretty much force people to drive tiny cars, thanks a lot pricks.
 
And then they can ban CFLs cuz they are full of Mercury.. Put a couple billion of these in landfills.. So they will require hazardous waste permits to throw away (at a fee of course). It never ends if you let them start.

See that's what really irritates me. They are all too happy to attack CO2 (what you breathe out and plants need to survive) saying various messages of doom and gloom, but their solution is more poisonous and more hazardous to us than the current "problem". I can easilly see how one might conclude that our government is trying to kill us.
 
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