Ron Paul's message to supporters

Two things.

Ron is even worse when reading a teleprompter. He's at his best when he's just speaking his mind. That speech was half teleprompter, half ad lib.

Second, that's a mixed message video if Ive ever seen one. When he's reading the teleprompter, he's playing ball with the party. When he's ad libbing he uses words like "fill the vacuum" and don't allow authoritarians to win. Maybe I'm projecting but it really looks like Ron just said to win this thing but to do it the right way and use our strength to be friends with the party.

When he was saying don't be distruptive, I think he was kidding or joking.
 
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Ron can't come right out and say this so I'll tell you what the plan is. The delegates are going to go into Tampa, follow the rules, make sure the rules are followed by everyone else, and the delegates are going to win the nomination for Ron Paul. Some say it's unlikely. Maybe. Some say it's impossible. (Wrong.) That's the plan, and that's what's going to happen.

Some people call me crazy. They are entitled to their opinion. I prefer to think of myself as an optimist who has done many things in life that were supposed to be impossible. There really isn't much that is impossible. People fool themselves into believing things are impossible, but it's usually a lie. The moment you realize you've been believing a lie, many possibilities open up to you.

There are tons of possibilities... And if there is anyone with the determination, passion, and voice to make the "impossible" happen it is Ron Paul delegates. We have already seen that many times along the way...




The National convention is more than two months away still. Wait some more. Hang in there and stay positive.

"Some people call me crazy. They are entitled to their opinion. I prefer to think of myself as an optimist who has done many things in life that were supposed to be impossible. There really isn't much that is impossible. People fool themselves into believing things are impossible, but it's usually a lie. The moment you realize you've been believing a lie, many possibilities open up to you."

If you admit that what you're pursuing is considered far fetched, you're less likely to be called crazy. I'm not going to call the desired Tampa outcome impossible. There are black swan events that could happen. Romney eaten by sharks. Good trained delegates would need to be in place.

However, my preferred outlook contains recognition that we aren't going to win unless something crazy happens (but we do still want that vote, and I know that we're working on lawsuits and large gatherings in Tampa and all these things we're working on might be that black swan event, that something crazy that causes the unlikely to happen), and trying to get whatever we can, and threatening to wreck the convention if we don't get what we want.
 
If you admit that what you're pursuing is considered far fetched, you're less likely to be called crazy. I'm not going to call the desired Tampa outcome impossible. There are black swan events that could happen. Romney eaten by sharks. Good trained delegates would need to be in place.

However, my preferred outlook contains recognition that we aren't going to win unless something crazy happens (but we do still want that vote, and I know that we're working on lawsuits and large gatherings in Tampa and all these things we're working on might be that black swan event, that something crazy that causes the unlikely to happen), and trying to get whatever we can, and threatening to wreck the convention if we don't get what we want.

I agree, something crazy will need to happen, but maybe "crazy" doesn't mean unlikely--maybe it just means unforeseen.

I'm curious as to what evidence will be presented in this lawsuit. Is there stuff most of us don't even know about yet?

How's this for a black swan: What if in the course of the civil proceeding, there is irrefutable evidence Romney himself had a hand in directing illegal activities? Or evidence that he had direct knowledge of criminal behavior, and did not do anything to stop any of it?

If so, then this could impact Romney in several ways... He could try to make a deal and back out, i.e. concede the nomination at or before the convention in an attempt to wash his hands of it. (Remember, the lawsuit says a separate RICO criminal trial will be sought later against all involved in criminal activities during the Primary...)

Perhaps Romney could end up in handcuffs in a jail cell awaiting trial before the convention, similarly forced to concede the nomination. Perhaps this lawsuit will start to get the attention it deserves and he will simply be shamed into conceding the nomination, since someone with such dirty hands could not win against Obama presumably...

Maybe it's even possible the judge could issue an injunction disqualifying Romney from the nomination if there is sufficient irrefutable evidence he was involved in election fraud. (Even if not found criminally guilty, maybe the judge will say "You cannot run for President as I find that you personally are guilty of election fraud, and while this court does not have the authority to hold you criminally liable--that is for another court to decide--I do have the authority to bar you from the nomination as an additional remedy to plaintiffs in the case, because your actions have damaged them.")

I can envision black swans of many different sizes and shapes ever since this lawsuit was filed. :D

Even if Romney isn't proven to be directly connected with anything, if the suit is successful and all the delegates become officially unbound on the first ballot, we all just became a lot less crazy for thinking it is possible to win.
 
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I agree, something crazy will need to happen, but maybe "crazy" doesn't mean unlikely--maybe it just means unforeseen.

I'm curious as to what evidence will be presented in this lawsuit. Is there stuff most of us don't even know about yet?

How's this for a black swan: What if in the course of the civil proceeding, there is irrefutable evidence Romney himself had a hand in directing illegal activities? Or evidence that he had direct knowledge of criminal behavior, and did not do anything to stop any of it?

If so, then this could impact Romney in several ways... He could try to make a deal and back out, i.e. concede the nomination at or before the convention in an attempt to wash his hands of it. (Remember, the lawsuit says a separate RICO criminal trial will be sought later against all involved in criminal activities during the Primary...)

Perhaps Romney could end up in handcuffs in a jail cell awaiting trial before the convention, similarly forced to concede the nomination. Perhaps this lawsuit will start to get the attention it deserves and he will simply be shamed into conceding the nomination, since someone with such dirty hands could not win against Obama presumably...

Maybe it's even possible the judge could issue an injunction disqualifying Romney from the nomination if there is sufficient irrefutable evidence he was involved in election fraud. (Even if not found criminally guilty, maybe the judge will say "You cannot run for President as I find that you personally are guilty of election fraud, and while this court does not have the authority to hold you criminally liable--that is for another court to decide--I do have the authority to bar you from the nomination as an additional remedy to plaintiffs in the case, because your actions have damaged them.")

I can envision black swans of many different sizes and shapes ever since this lawsuit was filed. :D

Even if Romney isn't proven to be directly connected with anything, if the suit is successful and all the delegates become officially unbound on the first ballot, we all just became a lot less crazy for thinking it is possible to win.

black swan, unlikely, unforeseen. you're said to be crazy for believing in those things. That's just how it works. What you're talking about is crazy, unlikely, unforeseen, black swan. But it could happen. Romney could eaten by sharks. Of course, we're pushing for these black swan events to take place, so, they don't seem quite as black swannish as to us. But, technically, they say you're crazy if you think a black swan like this will happen. It's just how it works. That's why Rand has to endorse and Ron Paul has to pretend it's over. It's a rule that you have to at least pretend that the msm isn't just making stuff up. We really should have a non crazy primary reason to do the same thing - fight hard to get delegates. To me, that non crazy thing is "Rand as VP". We need be inclusive. I think not providing a rational reason to keep going (and Ron Paul did provide a rational reason) would keep people from keeping going. The "make black swan happen" approach will be pursued by those who want to pursue it.
 
Great video. This is one of the reasons I love Ron Paul. Instead of jumping into the melee he stays above it and reminds us why we all came together in the first place and gently urges us to put our focus back on things that really matter.

Bless you, Dr. Paul. You never cease to inspire me.
 
Undecided.

I honestly I have some concerns. this video seems to be scripted which is not the Ron I have come to love. Was this message to the supporters required as part of the secret deal? A Rally where all of our delegates will be counted, and IDed the day before the convention? That sound like a TERRIBLE plan.
 
I agree, something crazy will need to happen, but maybe "crazy" doesn't mean unlikely--maybe it just means unforeseen.

I'm curious as to what evidence will be presented in this lawsuit. Is there stuff most of us don't even know about yet?

How's this for a black swan: What if in the course of the civil proceeding, there is irrefutable evidence Romney himself had a hand in directing illegal activities? Or evidence that he had direct knowledge of criminal behavior, and did not do anything to stop any of it?

If so, then this could impact Romney in several ways... He could try to make a deal and back out, i.e. concede the nomination at or before the convention in an attempt to wash his hands of it. (Remember, the lawsuit says a separate RICO criminal trial will be sought later against all involved in criminal activities during the Primary...)

Perhaps Romney could end up in handcuffs in a jail cell awaiting trial before the convention, similarly forced to concede the nomination. Perhaps this lawsuit will start to get the attention it deserves and he will simply be shamed into conceding the nomination, since someone with such dirty hands could not win against Obama presumably...

Maybe it's even possible the judge could issue an injunction disqualifying Romney from the nomination if there is sufficient irrefutable evidence he was involved in election fraud. (Even if not found criminally guilty, maybe the judge will say "You cannot run for President as I find that you personally are guilty of election fraud, and while this court does not have the authority to hold you criminally liable--that is for another court to decide--I do have the authority to bar you from the nomination as an additional remedy to plaintiffs in the case, because your actions have damaged them.")

I can envision black swans of many different sizes and shapes ever since this lawsuit was filed. :D

Even if Romney isn't proven to be directly connected with anything, if the suit is successful and all the delegates become officially unbound on the first ballot, we all just became a lot less crazy for thinking it is possible to win.

Or his partner in the Ponzi scheme that stole billions got 110 years in jail yesterday.

Rev9
 
Undecided.

I honestly I have some concerns. this video seems to be scripted which is not the Ron I have come to love. Was this message to the supporters required as part of the secret deal? A Rally where all of our delegates will be counted, and IDed the day before the convention? That sound like a TERRIBLE plan.

Yer always wishywashying and pretending you are actually concerned. Yer internal agenda is another thing entirely.

Rev9
 
Undecided.

I honestly I have some concerns. this video seems to be scripted which is not the Ron I have come to love. Was this message to the supporters required as part of the secret deal? A Rally where all of our delegates will be counted, and IDed the day before the convention? That sound like a TERRIBLE plan.

Some of them would attend "Paul Fest" anyway, so I don't think it will be a secret that can be kept.
It may have been scripted somewhat so that he not go off on what has been happening, that's kinda the way I saw it. Did you see the Texas Convention speach he gave, I'd say he's pretty fired up. He showed a bit of "self" constraint in this video, I think.
 
I think not providing a rational reason to keep going (and Ron Paul did provide a rational reason) would keep people from keeping going.

Agreed... it's like G. Edward Griffin said about the sinking boat analogy. If the boat is sinking, and all you do is tell others that the boat is sinking, people will either not believe you, or will just sink into apathy as they realize it's too late to do anything about it. So you give them some kind of practical goal to work towards, even if small.
 
Love Ron Paul's talk, though a bit scripted.....only concern is the Campaign is now concentrating on the Platform and is saying nothing about Nominating Ron for President on the Convention Floor.

If we have the five States to Nominate Ron, then he MUST be Nominated. We have all worked to hard for anything less.
 
Love Ron Paul's talk, though a bit scripted.....only concern is the Campaign is now concentrating on the Platform and is saying nothing about Nominating Ron for President on the Convention Floor.

If we have the five States to Nominate Ron, then he MUST be Nominated. We have all worked to hard for anything less.

I think once the "NEW" campaign structure is in place, these concerns along with many others are going to be addressed.
 
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So for those saying we are still trying to get the nomination...I think this video pretty much shows the campaign and Ron have given up on that....
 
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