Ron Paul's First Ad - as per his facebook

[MJU1983]

Love it.

 

[sailingaway]

"The Washington machine"? Sounds familiar.

And they are the only two who can really claim it as far as I'm concerned, so far. Although there are a few others worth watching, now.

 

[stefank]

Show me ONE, one minute long ad where the candidates name wasn't mentioned until the last 10 seconds that was even remotely effective and maybe I'll give your ill advised "lol!!" some credence.

well a movie ad was the theme, and if you somehow find a way to mention ron pauls name within the first ten seconds it would lose the dramatic effect and wouldn't fit. Also Romneys bump in the road ad doesn't say his name till 1:30.

 

[newbitech]

Disagree with you guys.

I'm sorry, but the cost to run a one minute ad where 50 seconds is fluff and you only hear Ron's name in the last 10 seconds seems like a wasted effort to me.

This could have been so much better. They could have cut to Ron warning about these problems in the 80s and 90s and predicting this.

I'm very disappointed. Production quality is great, but the content is way off.

The fact that this ad didn't connect with a hard core supporter such as yourself bodes well IMO. This isn't 2007. RP is mainstream at this point. The message needs to be clear, timely, and above all highlight the candidate in a way that makes him obviously different from the other choices.

check, check and check

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Be honest, would you have kept watching or listening intently if you didn't know you were watching the first Ron Paul ad in a "campaign that's serious?"

To me, it doesn't convey strength or leadership. In fact, I found the message to be fairly vague.

I believe that is the point of the video it keeps people interested till the end and then they find out it is about ron paul

 

[truthdivides]

To me, it doesn't convey strength or leadership. In fact, I found the message to be fairly vague.

Sounds exactly like what mainstream voters want. Very good.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I'm actually the supporter that tends to look at things from the mainstream republican view. Most everyone else here sees anything with Ron's name on it and thinks it's untouchable. I've been right on the polls, the effects of campaign decisions, and a number of other things and I predict this ad will be ineffective.

It simply doesn't tell the voter anything about Ron, and it doesn't convey any personal qualities or characteristics the mainline GOP voter looks for in a candidate. The long and short of it is "Will you flip? Ron won't flip." Complelling

The fact that this ad didn't connect with a hard core supporter such as yourself bodes well IMO. This isn't 2007. RP is mainstream at this point. The message needs to be clear, timely, and above all highlight the candidate in a way that makes him obviously different from the other choices.

check, check and check

 

[stefank]

Be honest, would you have kept watching or listening intently if you didn't know you were watching the first Ron Paul ad in a "campaign that's serious?"

The ad is supposed to target the average republican voter not ron paul's supporters and if that ad was by Hermann Cain i would still complement it

 

[sailingaway]

I like it. And remember that a lot of Ron's support comes from independents, and people can change party right at the caucus. It is a new introduction, and presents Ron in a light different than the media does. I think it works.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Not quite. The message is vague in the sense it's indecisive. Voters like to hear a candidate is strong and decisive, even if he's blatantly wrong.

Furthermore, the debt ceiling isn't even a significant issue with the GOP voters, believe it or not. In the bigger picture, jobs are. The economy is. Debt ceiling? They could care less.

Anyway, that's assuming they hang on through the ad long enough to make it to the final 10 seconds.

Sounds exactly like what mainstream voters want. Very good.

 

[svobody]

I'm actually the supporter that tends to look at things from the mainstream republican view. Most everyone else here sees anything with Ron's name on it and thinks it's untouchable. I've been right on the polls, the effects of campaign decisions, and a number of other things and I predict this ad will be ineffective.

It simply doesn't tell the voter anything about Ron, and it doesn't convey any personal qualities or characteristics the mainline GOP voter looks for in a candidate. The long and short of it is "Will you flip? Ron won't flip." Complelling

No... it says everybody else is caving in. Ron Paul won't, and hasn't. I guess if you don't think there is value in conveying that message, well... I think you're wrong

 

[svobody]

Not quite. The message is vague in the sense it's indecisive. Voters like to hear a candidate is strong and decisive, even if he's blatantly wrong.

Furthermore, the debt ceiling isn't even a significant issue with the GOP voters, believe it or not. In the bigger picture, jobs are. The economy is. Debt ceiling? They could care less.

Anyway, that's assuming they hang on through the ad long enough to make it to the final 10 seconds.

It's not about the debt ceiling, the debt ceiling is just symbolic of the bipartisan attitude toward spending in this country... so he's using that in order to put his positions in terms everybody can understand...

 

[rockandrollsouls]

...And independents are overly concerned about the debt ceiling right now....?

Listen, the proof will be in the pudding. We'll see if this ad has any significant or measurable effect.

I like it. And remember that a lot of Ron's support comes from independents, and people can change party right at the caucus. It is a new introduction, and presents Ron in a light different than the media does. I think it works.

 

[newbitech]

I'm actually the supporter that tends to look at things from the mainstream republican view. Most everyone else here sees anything with Ron's name on it and thinks it's untouchable. I've been right on the polls, the effects of campaign decisions, and a number of other things and I predict this ad will be ineffective.

It simply doesn't tell the voter anything about Ron, and it doesn't convey any personal qualities or characteristics the mainline GOP voter looks for in a candidate. The long and short of it is "Will you flip? Ron won't flip." Complelling

Mainstream republicans are begging the party not to cave in on the debt right now and stick it to Obama. You listen to Rush, Hannity et al? BTW, your warning about me being an Obama supporter has been up for over 3 years now. Care to take it down at my original request now>?

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Reading too far into it. Average voter sees this and thinks debt ceiling for 50 seconds. Where in this ad does it even clearly state Ron's stance on the debt ceiling?

Come back and watch it in an hour or two and I think the initial effect of a new ad that isn't awful from the campaign will wear off.

It's not about the debt ceiling, the debt ceiling is just symbolic of the bipartisan attitude toward spending in this country... so he's using that in order to put his positions in terms everybody can understand...

 

[afwjam]

This ad is distinctive and different, these are good things for Ron Paul.

 

[stefank]

You can see www.ronpaul2012.com within the first four seconds of the ad what are you talking about

 

[rockandrollsouls]

1. No because you did support him. So your opinion is bunk anyway.
2. The mainstream leaders are all about it, but go ask your average voter if the debt ceiling is a concern to them right now. 9 times out of 10 I wager they don't give a damn. It's simply the "news of the week." It's not an issue that sways voters. Why do you think Paul Ryan's 5 minutes of fame are up after his grand proposal?

Mainstream republicans are begging the party not to cave in on the debt right now and stick it to Obama. You listen to Rush, Hannity et al? BTW, your warning about me being an Obama supporter has been up for over 3 years now. Care to take it down at my original request now>?

 

[Eric21ND]

I personally think its a great start! We need more dynamic ads such as this.

 

[svobody]

Reading too far into it. Average voter sees this and thinks debt ceiling for 50 seconds. Where in this ad does it even clearly state Ron's stance on the debt ceiling?

Come back and watch it in an hour or two and I think the initial effect of a new ad that isn't awful from the campaign will wear off.

He's making this debt ceiling thing his - he's making himself the candidate who will say NO to spending, and stand up to Obama, the Democrats, and weak Republican leadership.

The debt ceiling is symbolic of Obama's attitude toward spending, and the attitude of establishment Republican leadership towards real spending cuts - because you know they are going to cave in!

By making ads about this issue, the campaign is trying to OWN it. In the next debate, the moderators will say Congressman Paul, you have been the only candidate spending money and campaigning on your distaste for spending and raising the debt ceiling, (insert question). Don't you see the value in making Ron Paul the candidate who's opposed to raising the debt ceiling and continuing the fiscal gluttony of the establishment?

This is branding 101. Ron's crew has decided he is going to make this his cause célèbre. Ron Paul: The candidate against spending, against raising the debt ceiling.