Ron Paul wants to have RonPaul.com.....BAD IDEA

[sailingaway]

What's the point of paying for campaign domain names that are for events in the past? (like 2008 election page)

Would be nice if RonPaul.com owner would give it to Ron Paul for costs, or at least cooperate and let Ron Paul use the page.

It has internet dominance because of the number of views, subscriptions etc. that dominance and access to those subscriptions (so your stuff shows up on these people's feeds) is what is lost.

And for Ron to 'use' that other persons page would build up the value of something someone else owns, like building a house on someone else's property.

 

[jmdrake]

Lease is a terrible idea, imho, because it is RON's thing of value that he will build by being associated with it. Why should he build that for someone else? Reasonable payment for the RonPaul.com (honestly I think he should get .org for free, it is HIS) and hiring the guy who obviously knows how to keep domains seems appropriate though. Clearly domain keeping is a skill set Ron's current employees do not have.

So? Depending on the terms of the lease it would in no way be disadvantageous to Ron to do it that way. Besides, ultimately Ron will be "leasing" the domain name from someone, and unless he decides to run his own server farm, he will be "leasing" the computer space from someone else and then on top of it, hire a webmaster. What I'm suggesting would combine all of those things into one. Have you never seen a plot of land that says "For lease, will built to your specifications"? This is basically the same thing but with a website. And the "domain keeping" problem goes away. Really I see no disadvantage to what I'm proposing except for the emotional hurdle the word "lease" may cause.

 

[sailingaway]

So? Depending on the terms of the lease it would in no way be disadvantageous to Ron to do it that way. Besides, ultimately Ron will be "leasing" the domain name from someone, and unless he decides to run his own server farm, he will be "leasing" the computer space from someone else and then on top of it, hire a webmaster. What I'm suggesting would combine all of those things into one. Have you never seen a plot of land that says "For lease, will built to your specifications"? This is basically the same thing but with a website. And the "domain keeping" problem goes away. Really I see no disadvantage to what I'm proposing except for the emotional hurdle the word "lease" may cause.

I understand your suggestion but I think Ron is better off owning what he builds just as I wouldn't want to build a house on someone else's land to get lawn service from the property owner. The greater value is in what Ron would - and in my opinion should - own. But Ron can make that decision for himself, he doesn't need me. It just isnt what I'm pushing for. What I'd like to see is for Ron to get .org back that he built, regardless, then on .com, recognizing that another guy owns it and built it and has the RIGHT to it, I'd like Ron to be able to buy it at a fair price and hire the guy who owns it. but the owner doesn't HAVE to turn it over if they don't come to terms, obviously.

With .org however, which Ron had all these years, I find it hard to see see how you can call yourself a supporter and keep that if Ron wants it just because staff forgot to renew. That would be like a family member knowing you might forget to pay taxes on your property and picking up the property for the cost of taxes, then not giving it back when you offer the money. Legal, sure, but nasty in my personal opinion.

 

[mad cow]

Drop a few million in a bank, and you can live off interest for the rest of your life.

For various reasons,I have money in three different banks.The one that pays me the most interest pays 0.5% a year.
The interest on three million would be $15,000 a year.
Doable,but I would have to eat more possum than I care to.

 

[unknown]

If he can't keep a website payed up he shouldn't dream about being President.

Not saying he couldn't manage the site btw.

If who couldnt?

 

[Voluntary Man]

he shouldn't dream about being President

He doesn't.

 

[qh4dotcom]

I would be thanking him (not kissing his feet) if he had saved them FOR RON and demanded something reasonable like a fact to face meeting to explain to Ron why he needs better employees who love him to watch this stuff. Not when he takes something Ron built up over years for himself. The RonPaul.com is arguable. The RonPaul.org FOR A SUPPORTER is not imho. Ron built that ranking himself.

You can disagree, but I'm right.

Ok, I will agree with you....that seems very reasonable...a face to face meeting with Dr. Paul to explain him the importance of domain registration renewals...and before handing it back to Dr. Paul, a 10 year domain registration renewal should be made.

 

[gerryb1]

For various reasons,I have money in three different banks.The one that pays me the most interest pays 0.5% a year.
The interest on three million would be $15,000 a year.
Doable,but I would have to eat more possum than I care to.

You should keep a few thousand in those accounts. Anything more then 10's of thousands should be earning 2-8% unless you need the money soon.

 

[angelatc]

Some apparently think so. SMH. I guess liberals aren't the only ones with a self-righteous sense of entitlement ... that's one bandwagon I want nothing to do with.

It would (obviously) be very nice of the owner to give or sell the domain "for the cause". But if not - well, that's just too damn bad. He's under no obligation to do so, legal, moral or otherwise. Period.

If someone else had gotten the domain, a great deal of damage could have been done. Seems to me we ought to be grateful just as it is.

Absolutely. I think the real win/win would be for Ron Paul to hire the guy to run the site the way Ron wants it run. In the meantime, we owe the guy gratitude for keeping the domains out of enemy hands.

 

[angelatc]

Ok, I will agree with you....that seems very reasonable...a face to face meeting with Dr. Paul to explain him the importance of domain registration renewals...and before handing it back to Dr. Paul, a 10 year domain registration renewal should be made.

And we thought Ron could run the country?

 

[sailingaway]

And we thought Ron could run the country?

the president files for his own domain registrations?

 

[angelatc]

I would be thanking him (not kissing his feet) if he had saved them FOR RON and demanded something reasonable like a fact to face meeting to explain to Ron why he needs better employees who love him to watch this stuff. Not when he takes something Ron built up over years for himself. The RonPaul.com is arguable. The RonPaul.org FOR A SUPPORTER is not imho. Ron built that ranking himself.

You can disagree, but I'm right.

YEs, we know that. You're a mod!!!

 

[sailingaway]

YEs, we know that. You're a mod!!!

I just meant, I understand their arguments and disagree, and am not going to change my mind. :o:

 

[ClydeCoulter]

I just meant, I understand their arguments and disagree, and am not going to change my mind. :o:

How did the youtube account lapse? I've never had to do anything to keep mine. Is it a special account or something?

 

[sailingaway]

How did the youtube account lapse? I've never had to do anything to keep mine. Is it a special account or something?

I don't actually know, but others here might. It was before I was active here.

 

[staerker]

If he can't keep a website payed up he shouldn't dream about being President.

Not saying he couldn't manage the site btw.

Imagine a President who can't keep the government payed up.

 

[fr33]

The difference here is that the people who own it bought it from a guy who had that name - they didn't register it to infringe. And he bought it at auction, where anybody presumably had the right to buy it. These people were the highest bidders. The case might be interesting, but repulsive none the less.

I remember when we were pissy because the guy who owned it wouldn't sell it to Paul in 2007. Then when he decided to auction it we were frantic that some hater like Glenn Beck would buy it.

Now we're supposed to froth with anticipation that Ron Paul might go into full blown liberal bully mode and use the force of government to sue it away from a guy who bought it, and has done a really good job with it?

Yeah I'm not really aware of all that back story. It sounds like Ron Paul really needs to get a clue on this. Anybody can manage domain ownership. It's so simple. If I were in Ron Paul's shoes I wouldn't have let it go this far but if the guy using RonPaul.com was using my likeness with ad revenue, it would be hard not to use the system in my favor.

 

[qh4dotcom]

Yeah I'm not really aware of all that back story. It sounds like Ron Paul really needs to get a clue on this. Anybody can manage domain ownership. It's so simple. If I were in Ron Paul's shoes I wouldn't have let it go this far but if the guy using RonPaul.com was using my likeness with ad revenue, it would be hard not to use the system in my favor.

Everyone here talking about the owner of RonPaul.com and somehow suggesting it's not appropriate from him to profit using Ron Paul's image and likeness forgot two things.

First of all Ron Paul was a publicly elected official and as such his name and image are in the public domain....it is perfectly legal for you to profit from public domain...you can write a book about a publicly elected official like Obama, use his image and keep all profits and you don't owe a dime to Obama. That's the way I understand it, correct me if I am wrong.

Second, the owner of RonPaul.com is doing exactly the same as the owner of RonPaulForums.com....both are using Ron Paul's name and generating ad revenue or monetizing their websites thanks to him....so if you aren't too happy with the owner of RonPaul.com generating a profit, why aren't you upset about the owner of RonPaulForums.com getting ad revenue? and what about all the other Ron Paul websites like Daily Paul who are also monetizing their sites?

 

[sailingaway]

Everyone here talking about the owner of RonPaul.com and somehow suggesting it's not appropriate from him to profit using Ron Paul's image and likeness forgot two things.

First of all Ron Paul was a publicly elected official and as such his name and image are in the public domain....it is perfectly legal for you to profit from public domain...you can write a book about a publicly elected official like Obama, use his image and keep all profits and you don't owe a dime to Obama. That's the way I understand it, correct me if I am wrong.

Second, the owner of RonPaul.com is doing exactly the same as the owner of RonPaulForums.com....both are using Ron Paul's name and generating ad revenue or monetizing their websites thanks to him....so if you aren't too happy with the owner of RonPaul.com generating a profit, why aren't you upset about the owner of RonPaulForums.com getting ad revenue? and what about all the other Ron Paul websites like Daily Paul who are also monetizing their sites?

The difference is that Ron Paul WANTS RonPaul.com and it is his name, not 'forums' or any off shoot, and that is typically what people would put in to get a person's web site. Media mistook it for Ron'sthroughout the campaign.

However, the RonPaul.com one is a business he built up, and while I'd like Ron to be able to buy it, maybe and hire the guy, that is for them to discuss. RonPaul.ORG is a business RON built up, and as a supporter, I can't imagine someone calling themselves a supporter keeping that when Ron wants it, when it just briefly lapsed due to some employee not registering it properly. Ron has had that site for years. A total stranger, out for a buck, I could understand. But I don't see a supporter keeping that. That is just my opinion.

 

[MelissaCato]

I think Ron Paul should just hire the guy who has all the websites and convince the owner to sell RonPaul.com to Ron Paul himself. He's doing a fabulous job and it's evident he's a die hard Ron Paul supporter. JMO.