Ron Paul Twitter Account

[KingNothing]

Yeah, but you didn't like him before this tweet.

You think that someone with a thousand posts here doesn't like Ron Paul?
What is happening to this forum?

 

[KingNothing]

I am sorry, but that is a piss poor excuse. He is a professional with a staff. The minute he hits that enter button whatever he types goes out to 400,000 people. If he does not understand how to use the service, then he should be instructed fully on how to do so.

It was careless. Ron isn't perfect. It's silly to expect perfection from him. He should be more perfect than this, however.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

Honestly FUCK you. Most of my time in the military was dedicated to saving lives.

So if you weren't "living by the sword", why are you applying Ron's Jesus quotation regarding a statement of fact about those who do (such as Kyle) to yourself?

 

[angelatc]

It isn't wishing anything. it is simply a statement, a spiritual principle.

Like Sowing and Reaping. Sow good, and reap good, Sow evil and you will reap evil.. It is what grows from the seed you sow.

Or stating the principle of gravity,, if you walk off a cliff you will fall.
No wishing,, no intent.. simply a statement.

You seem to be implying that Jesus believes in Karma. That's a theory that I've never heard before. Here I was going under the impression that putting down the sword would earn the reprieve of forgiveness.

In any event, I won't presume to know His will.

Or maybe you're simply implying that those of us that enjoy a day of shooting at the range need to accept that fact that someone might shoot us in the back while we're there.

In any event, I was of the mindset that God loves all His children. Kyle is facing the only judgement that matters now.

 

[klamath]

You seem to be implying that Jesus believes in Karma. That's a theory that I've never heard before. Here I was going under the impression that putting down the sword would earn the reprieve of forgiveness.

In any event, I won't presume to know His will.

Or maybe you're simply implying that those of us that enjoy a day of shooting at the range need to accept that fact that someone might shoot us in the back while we're there.

In any event, I was of the mindset that God loves all His children. Kyle is facing the only judgement that matters now.

That is the point, kyle Is there now and in the time of God's judgement we should show respect, forth with the saying before a man was killed. "My God have mercy on your soul".

 

[CUnknown]

This whole thing is really meaningless, the less said about it the better. Ron is not running for anything anymore. He can say whatever he wants. He should have showed more sympathy I guess, but the media is really blowing this out of proportion in an attempt to attack him. I guess we should be glad they still care enough to smear us.

 

[angelatc]

This whole thing is really meaningless, the less said about it the better. Ron is not running for anything anymore. He can say whatever he wants. He should have showed more sympathy I guess, but the media is really blowing this out of proportion in an attempt to attack him. I guess we should be glad they still care enough to smear us.

I take it you're not active in your local GOP. For those of us that have spent 5 freaking years trying to make in-roads, this was a huge kick in the gut. Years and years of relationship development, destroyed in 140 characters.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

I take it you're not active in your local GOP. For those of us that have spent 5 freaking years trying to make in-roads, this was a huge kick in the gut. Years and years of relationship development, destroyed in 140 characters.

Which puts many in a very difficult position. Does one defend Ron Paul and alienate themselves from their peers or does one distance themselves from him so that the fight for liberty can continue unimpeded?

 

[angelatc]

Which puts many in a very difficult position. Does one defend Ron Paul and alienate themselves from their peers or does one distance themselves from him so that the fight for liberty can continue unimpeded?

Ron has repeatedly said he wanted the movement to be about the message and not the man, so there's the answer.

 

[eleganz]

I take it you're not active in your local GOP. For those of us that have spent 5 freaking years trying to make in-roads, this was a huge kick in the gut. Years and years of relationship development, destroyed in 140 characters.

Well good thing it isn't about Ron Paul anymore. If they want to lynch you for words Ron Paul said then...something is wrong with them. And if they want to let 140 characters destroy your years of relationship development, maybe there wasn't really a relationship there.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

You seem to be implying that Jesus believes in Karma. That's a theory that I've never heard before. Here I was going under the impression that putting down the sword would earn the reprieve of forgiveness.

In any event, I won't presume to know His will.

Or maybe you're simply implying that those of us that enjoy a day of shooting at the range need to accept that fact that someone might shoot us in the back while we're there.

In any event, I was of the mindset that God loves all His children. Kyle is facing the only judgement that matters now.

This is where certain interpretations of Christian justice seem to not live up to the high standards of libertarian justice.

Take a monster such as Kyle. Libertarian justice is focused entirely on compensation and restitution to the victims or the victims' families as far as is possible. Forgiveness of the criminal is for the victim to give out--not the Creator. Any punishment doled out has compensation of the victims as its main purpose. Hence, in Kyle's case, the families of his victims could either forgive him or perhaps enslave him, put him to work, and use the proceeds to help raise all of the children he left fatherless.

Yet some interpretations of Christian justice seem entirely unconcerned with the victims. The idea that it is for the Creator to either do the forgiving or mete out eternal phyical torture is completely at odds with the libertarian notion of right and wrong.

I'm not saying that that's the only interpretation of Christian justice that's out there. But its pretty popular.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Why are you having to say this? Why hasn't Ron stepped foward and said "I screwed up with this newfangled twitter thingy It cut off a larger message I was trying to convey."? Is one his gut personal belief and the facebook comment his political statement?

Hey klamath: guess what? The world does not revolve around you.

If you wanted to be offended by what was said in that tweet, and ignore 30 years of public life, there isn't anything anyone here can say to make you feel better. So just go be offended.

Honestly, I get the Glenn Becks of the world getting their knickers in a twist over this silliness, but so-called Ron Paul supporters? Get over yourselves... gosh you people and your sacred cows.

 

[MarcusI]

Thanks. I hadn't thought of it, but that makes the tweet even more offensive. They gave him money to support his message, and in turn he said Jesus apparently thinks they deserve to die violently because they're in the military.

Actually I don't think one can interpret it this way. Whether or not he (or whoever wrote it) referred the tweet to all veterans (which I don't believe, but could be possible, reading ONLY the tweet) the sentence only says that "he who lives by the sword" "will die by the sword". There is no word, that the person deserves to die. It only "is" this way.

Thats my reading. Maybe I'm wrong. Don't know much about bible interpretation.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

So if you weren't "living by the sword", why are you applying Ron's Jesus quotation regarding a statement of fact about those who do (such as Kyle) to yourself?

Do you want to know why? It is because the social paradigm presently considers military service nearly a sacred thing, and it seems many have come to regard any non-complimentary comment to be a serious, personal offense.

 

[angelatc]

This is where certain interpretations of Christian justice seem to not live up to the high standards of libertarian justice.

Take a monster such as Kyle. Libertarian justice is focused entirely on compensation and restitution to the victims or the victims' families as far as is possible. Forgiveness of the criminal is for the victim to give out--not the Creator. Any punishment doled out has compensation of the victims as its main purpose. Hence, in Kyle's case, the families of his victims could either forgive him or perhaps enslave him, put him to work, and use the proceeds to help raise all of the children he left fatherless.

Yet some interpretations of Christian justice seem entirely unconcerned with the victims. The idea that it is for the Creator to either do the forgiving or mete out eternal phyical torture is completely at odds with the libertarian notion of right and wrong.

I'm not saying that that's the only interpretation of Christian justice that's out there. But its pretty popular.

Yeah, apparently my Grandma took me to a much different church than you did. While it is true that Jesus told us to forgive, vengeance and judgement belonged to God and God alone.

Ron is a Christian, and a Republican. I could give a rat's ass what the libertarian philosophy is, because as this debacle has sp succinctly illustrated, libertarianism in practice is crude and repulsive.

Like it or not, the only proper thing to say here, as was pointed out above, is "May God have mercy on his soul." Calling him a monster, dancing on his grave, and delighting in the notion that he is dead serves absolutely no purpose for good.

 

[Stallheim]

Why because I don't worship the ground he walks on and try to come up with excuses for his errors? I endorsed him, donated to him and worked my precinct or him. I don't "adore" him like you do, but I don't adore any politician. I save adoration for my wife, kids and grandkids.

Thank you for your service.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

You seem to be implying that Jesus believes in Karma.

Karma is "what goes around comes around". That's not at all what the verse is about, nor rather obviously what Pete was trying to say.

 

[angelatc]

Well good thing it isn't about Ron Paul anymore. If they want to lynch you for words Ron Paul said then...something is wrong with them. And if they want to let 140 characters destroy your years of relationship development, maybe there wasn't really a relationship there.

There's the ol' libertarian spirit! We can do no wrong - the rest of the world is at fault.

 

[cajuncocoa]

But maybe Ron wasn't dancing on Kyle's grave. Maybe his tweet was meant in a general sense about the horrors and blowback of war, not anything related to Chris Kyle specifically. The part about taking someone with PTSD to a firing range is just common sense.

Anyway, what difference does it make? Ron isn't running for anything so he can now be himself. If he wants to insult someone (or not) he doesn't have to worry about the political consequences any longer. His supporters who are disappointed in him for saying this (or anything in the past or future) no longer need to spin themselves in a tizzy for fear of a loss of votes.

 

[cajuncocoa]

There's the ol' libertarian spirit! We can do no wrong - the rest of the world is at fault.

Yep...the good ol' libertarian spirit isn't feeling the need to apologize to the conservative spirit of endless wars for blood sport. Deal with it.